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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Marsey

Tanner Marsey has started 14 posts and replied 426 times.

Post: What To Do When Landlords Refuse to Lower Their Asking Price

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

I currently self manage but isn’t this stuff discussed before you being hired to manage the property? Ex.... someone contacts you and wants to rent their super average property for well above market rent. You explain to them that it probably is not possible. They don’t want to budge... you politely inform them that you don’t think you’ll be able to work with them...? Also, write into a clause that if unrented for x amount of days asking price will be dropped by x% ...?

Post: Borrowing money from parents for down payment

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

10k isn’t worth mixing business and family. I’d consider a hard money loan or some other means of obtaining the money.

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Some of you are getting real salty in here. I don’t think anyone is saying money can’t be made in the 30k homes. And, yeah, you might luck out and get a good tenant that is hassle free. And you might not have any necessary repairs for a while but let’s talk about the rules and not there exceptions. Sooner or later it is going to be a job, work, money, time. And there is nothing wrong with that. I have one class a property in a class a neighborhood. Current tenants are going on 2 years there. Only time I’ve ever heard from them is when he’s texted me to tell me he had repaired something on his own. I told him to deduct expenses for product and his time from rent. He told me not to worry about it and paid his rent in full before it was due. I did no rehab/upgrades on this property. All major appliances and systems are good for at least another 15 years and when these tenants move out, the day I list it I will have 5+ rental applications turned in From dual income households that probably average 150k+ a year. 0 time invested. No headaches. I haven’t even seen the place in two years. You won’t find that with a 30k property, generally. But like I said.... there is money to be made there, too.

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Not interested in the headaches that come along with the 30k properties. If you can purchase for 30k, rehab and have an ARV of 60k plus, that's a different story. I think in a large number of markets you can up your purchase price and start getting into the 60k range and have decent cash flow, lower expenses, less headaches and more longevity (newer home) but to each their own. If it's working for you then keep on pushing.

Post: Tenant is 3 days late on rent

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Hard to say.... maybe talk with previous owner if possible. There is no penalty on when the rent is paid so maybe he’s been paying the second week of the month for years now and if the previous owner was okay with that, that’s how the tenant has been trained. IMO if him paying late isn’t causing you to lose any money and he pays every month.... put up with it until he decides to leave. Bottom line being you’re getting paid, you don’t have to deal with turn over and hopefully he’s a low maintenance tenant. Just my two cents.

Post: Interesting Partnership scenario/creative financing

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

@Oleg Shalumov

Thanks for the reply. I understand that you own a portion of the property but are pretty much at mercy of whatever the syndicator wants to do or be bought out I would assume?

And that’s a really good idea in regards to solo 401k. I actually need to decrease my income for tax purposes.

Thanks again!

Post: Interesting Partnership scenario/creative financing

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Thank you all for the responses. Buying a piece of property every 2-3 years for the next 10 years or so is a piece of my plan. The majority of it, actually. I invest in stock and make contributions to my 457 account as well. Just trying to mitigate risk and increase chances of profit in the future and while stumbling across real estate I realized it’s something that greatly interest me and I enjoy studying, researching and participating in it.

Syndication suggestions.... it sounds appealing. Part of me really enjoys the idea of being 100% hands off. The only hold up I have is that when all said and don’t I don’t actually own anything. I like the idea of getting homes paid off, enjoying the benefits during retirement and then passing them along to my kids when I’m dead and gone or using it to fund their education, help them purchase their first home, etc.... not totally agains it though. Will definitely have to research further.

Thanks again!

Post: Bi-weekly Mortgage payment option

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Just toss a little extra on there each month. Monthly payment divide by 12 type of deal. Is it the best money you’ll spend....? Nope. I do it because in 20 years I want to have as few personal monthly expenses as possible. That to me is worth more than whatever else I could do with that chunk of money. You can’t monetize everything.... contrary to popular belief on BP.

Post: Interesting Partnership scenario/creative financing

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

@Joe Villeneuve

That is kind of what I figured when I thought about it myself. But just thought I’d toss it up here to see if anyone has done anything similar. Thanks again for the response. Seems like it has the ability to get pretty messy real quick.

Post: Interesting Partnership scenario/creative financing

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578
Originally posted by @Bill B.:

@Tanner Marsey

If you’re trying not to make money today it might be a little harder. But if mean you don’t care for cash flow when you say you don’t need returns today. I would say buy some buy and hold properties with 15-20 year mortgages. You being in San Diego and me being in Vegas, I would of course say buy them in Vegas. You can certainly disagree about that but I would say outside of California for sure. 

With 20% down and short term mortgages you should be able to get great financing. They may or may not return positive or negative $200/mo each which I take it you don’t care about. But when they are paid off they should provide an easy $1200/mo or more each when you want the money. 

This also gives you a couple exit strategies. One for you to move out of California to lower your income and capital gains taxes, exchange them in to something else, or sell one or two if you need a lump sum. You need less tha 5% annual appreciation to double the value in your time line. You could also just take out a new loan for 1/2 the value then and pocket 4x your original investment while they continue to cash flow. 

You’ve got what they like to call a good problem to have.

This is essentially what I am doing right now. While I have considered the Vegas market for multiple reasons, I am focusing on Southern California for the foreseeable future. I was just wondering if I could use the fact that I don’t need immediate returns to benefit a partner and if it were beneficial, how a deal like that may be structured. I appreciate you taking the time to reply!