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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Lewis

Tanner Lewis has started 1 posts and replied 431 times.

Post: Any Advice On Getting Started In The Houston, TX Market? (Or Other Emerging Markets)

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I've done a few STR deals in Galveston; with Texas taxes, it is tough to cash flow without doing an STR. I have seen a few solid, high cash flow LTRs in Houston's sister cities.

Post: Transfer property from one LLC to another LLC

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It would probably be easiest to amend the operating agreement to remove those members. You can also do a deed of transfer at closing and switch it into another LLC, may be some title fees but since there is no sale, it is not a taxable event.

Post: What purchase price are you targeting for your next property purchase?

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If you have the ability to target a specific purchase price, I suggest staying in the $250k-$1m range. From a lending standpoint, most loans <$150k loan amount has the highest risk and, therefore, higher rates. Typically, anything in the middle range has a reduced risk and more favorable terms. 

Post: Bought my first house, I am in Vero Beach, FL and house hacking it!

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Quote from @Luke Panas:
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Hey all, really look forward to learning from you guys! My name is Luke. I am a business owner of 2 stores, 1 in Vero, and the other in Port St Lucie. i got a killer deal on a house in Vero Beach, Florida. The only problem was that I couldn't buy it in my own name (a complicated story, but there was no way for the underwriter to write for the property to be put in my name as the buyer) so i created an LLC with my father and I as managing members and got the funding for it through a hard money lender. I got a great price at 210K and it appraised at 260K at time of purchase - this was in April of 2023. Since then I have made significant improvements and am making the previous garage conversion into an actual ADU. I am planning to get a cashout refi, which I believe I need to move it solely into my name first, but there is also a prepayment penalty attached to the loan for the first 3 years. My interest rate is 10% though, and i think i am paying way too much on such a small mortgage.

I am looking for some guidance on what the best next step would be once the rental side gets done on how to move forward to structure a second deal. Sorry for the complicated scenario as my first post! -(And thats the cliff notes version!)

Since there is a prepay penalty on this new loan, it sounds like this is a DSCR loan. Why would you want to move the deal into your personal name? It exposes you to a lot of liability

It is my understanding from reading and researching that it is very difficult to get a cashout refi approved for the same amount (or even just to get approved in general) when in an LLC, in comparison to when the property is held in the individuals name. Is that not accurate?

With conventional financing, yes. With DSCR, no. With all of my deals, I suggest that borrowers buy within an LLC/entity since it gives them the most protection. It is just that way with conventional financing since those loan products are made for owner-occupied properties, while DSCR loans are made for investors.

Post: Bought my first house, I am in Vero Beach, FL and house hacking it!

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Quote from @Luke Panas:

Hey all, really look forward to learning from you guys! My name is Luke. I am a business owner of 2 stores, 1 in Vero, and the other in Port St Lucie. i got a killer deal on a house in Vero Beach, Florida. The only problem was that I couldn't buy it in my own name (a complicated story, but there was no way for the underwriter to write for the property to be put in my name as the buyer) so i created an LLC with my father and I as managing members and got the funding for it through a hard money lender. I got a great price at 210K and it appraised at 260K at time of purchase - this was in April of 2023. Since then I have made significant improvements and am making the previous garage conversion into an actual ADU. I am planning to get a cashout refi, which I believe I need to move it solely into my name first, but there is also a prepayment penalty attached to the loan for the first 3 years. My interest rate is 10% though, and i think i am paying way too much on such a small mortgage.

I am looking for some guidance on what the best next step would be once the rental side gets done on how to move forward to structure a second deal. Sorry for the complicated scenario as my first post! -(And thats the cliff notes version!)

Since there is a prepay penalty on this new loan, it sounds like this is a DSCR loan. Why would you want to move the deal into your personal name? It exposes you to a lot of liability

Post: Costs related to short-term rentals vs long-term rentals

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Quote from @Matyndia Oyourou:
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The main issue with multifamily STR deals is financing. I'm not sure what unit count you are looking at, but most 5+ unit buildings need to be LTRs, but anything 2-4 unit multifamily can easily be done with A DSCR loan for short-term rentals.


Thank you for the valuable information! I am looking for a 2-4 unit multifamily and planning to house hack. This is my first time hearing about DSCR loans. I plan to do my research on this type of loan. Do you know if the loan allows you to use the property as a primary residence?

You cannot do so as they are strictly investor loans. If you are looking to do this owner-occupied, conventional may work, but if you have issues qualifying, you can run the numbers as a non-owner-occupied property and pursue a DSCR loan.

Post: Staring Out - Atlanta

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If you want financing, I would try to save up a bit more. I would try to have about $40k saved up for a down payment to make the deal financial for most lenders. There are not many that are able to do loan amounts <100k, much less <75k

Post: First Time Buyer/Investor

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Some hard money lenders will lend to you even if you are a first-time home buyer. They will also be your answer to your rehab financing needs. Since this deal is being bought for a low cost, many hard money lenders will pass on it unless it is an extensive rehab with a significant value add. 

Your lender will direct you in the best direction regarding insurance, title, and pretty much most closing tasks. When I do hard money loans, I run title, get an insurance quote for the borrower, and do the desktop appraisal on the deal. You will need builder's insurance for the rehab and landlord insurance to hold it as a rental. Again, your lender will tell you what requirements they need. 

CLOSE WITH AN LLC or another entity. It protects you the most as an investor. I would talk with a lawyer about how to structure it, but most of my borrowers use an LLC in the state of the investment property nested within a Wyoming LLC holding company. DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS. Hard money and DSCR lenders will also be ok with an LLC taking out the loan and holding title, conventional lending will not.

Post: Costs related to short-term rentals vs long-term rentals

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The main issue with multifamily STR deals is financing. I'm not sure what unit count you are looking at, but most 5+ unit buildings need to be LTRs, but anything 2-4 unit multifamily can easily be done with A DSCR loan for short-term rentals.

Post: What are some good STR loans out there today?

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Quote from @Jon Martin:

@Tanner Lewis thanks for the link. Below is where the confusion may lie:

-The Borrower must occupy the second home for some portion of the year

-The Borrower must keep the property available primarily (i.e., more than half of the calendar year) for the Borrower’s personal use and enjoyment

Looks like that was updated in May 2022, I closed on mine in March 2022 so my rider only included the first of the 2 bullet points above, so maybe they added the 2nd bullet point after?

"Some" of the year could be 1 weekend per year of actually staying in the property. The 2nd bullet point is where it gets vague. Are you expected to have it available for your use 180 days a year but you don't have to actually use it? As in it's empty if you decide to go spontaneously? You would need a fairly flexible job to use your 2nd home that much. 

@Jon Martin I think the guidelines tightened from people using second home loans for STRs. Fannie/Freddie are, in theory, supposed to be used for owner-occupied properties and not investment properties, so they are trying to deter this type of behavior. I think the idea is that a property should not be booked for more than half a year (because you cannot use it when it is booked). They don't expect you to live there for half a year, but it is more of having the ability to.