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All Forum Posts by: Susan O.

Susan O. has started 69 posts and replied 547 times.

Originally posted by @Basit Siddiqi:

@Susan O.

This was proposed in the recent tax law changes but did not pass.

It is still 2 out of the last 5 years.

wow crazy my accountant is so ill informed.  i was wondering on a triplex can you live in one unit for 2 years, another unit for 2 years then 2/3 of the occupied would be cap gains tax exempt with the 2/5 year exemption?

Originally posted by @Vanesa Gonzalez:

@Susan O. unfortunately when I had my first eviction last year, I contacted several agencies BUT none of them wanted to work with me because I only own 10 units. I contacted minimum 10 agencies and they all said no.

So I just decided to stop looking.

All the best to you!

Thanks Ill let you know if I get one.  I have about $25k in judgements from evictions

So for if i was doing a triplex living in 1 unit then another unit 2 years each could I take advantage of 4 yrs of 5 yrs moving from one unit to another with the sect 21 cap gains exemption? so 2/5 years in one unit and 2/5 years in another unit

When I convert a rental unit into an owner occ unit then would I have to pay back the recapture dep tax that year?
I lived in one unit 2016-2018, another unit 2018-2020, and I plan to sell at end of 2020. This is for a triplex that I owner occupy too thanks! Susan

Originally posted by @Mark H. Porter:

Hi Rafael - I pulled back my forbearances in 5 properties after one month after one bank said they would be cautious due to not thinking I had managed my cash flows well.

 I've heard at the end of the 6-12 months of forebearance there will be an option to modify the loan.  You might get a much lower rate and then you could possibly defer the owed money to the end of the loan

I am assuming that cares act and government will step in and force them too. So anyone who didn't take forbearance didn't get to take advantage of a really good loan mod

Hi ya'll

What are your opinions or has anyone had some experience with Loan forbearance?

Has anyone tried getting a loan modification at the end of their forbearance period?  What do you think the options will be? Lower rates?  Deferment to put the owed debt at end of the loan?  Or something worse?  Could this Loan mod at end be something negative for our ability to do a future Loan or Refi on another property?


This is on a Duplex I live in one side.  I got Wells Fargo forbearance last March during covid.  I was thinking of trying to refinance but they said to refinance I'd have to Pay back all the defered payments then the rate would be about 3.5% on the new loan.. That would be a Refinance not a Loan Modification

Then I was wondering Deferment would put all my payments at the END of the loan which would be beneficial over a refinance where I'd have to pay off my last 3-4 months of payments.  Perhaps the Loan modification at the end of the Loan Forbearance could be some really good options for us?

But I also heard if you just wait until the end of your forbearance payment you may have the option to then Modify the loan? What do you think terms will be and what I should do?

This is on paper but theres a lot of apartment not able to evict and have tenants not paying 'due to covid' 

There's also this:

https://www.naahq.org/news-publications/democratic-municipal-officials-calls-congress-support-rental-assistance

Post: Rent Freeze during Covid Pandemic

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

Any updates on this?

Ther's a national apartment association advocacy group



https://www.naahq.org/advocacy



https://www.naahq.org/news-publications/democratic-municipal-officials-calls-congress-support-rental-assistance



https://www.naahq.org/advocacy/action-center/advocacy-365

You can also sign petitions and join apartment associations it seems

Originally posted by @Dave Foster:

@Susan O.The math works on that.  But there may be a gotcha.  The first unit is no problem.  Live in it for 2 and then convert it to a rental and move out.  You now have 3 years to sell it and still be able to claim you lived in it for 2 out of the 5 years before sale.  

But when you move into the other unit you are converting a rental to your primary.  That is a different conversion and I think you'll only get to prorate the gain from that one between the time you used it for investment and rental. @Natalie Kolodij.  What say you?

 Thanks the plan for this owner occ house hack triplex was 

2016-2018 live in unit 1

2018-2020 live in unit 2

2020 end resell and use the cap gains exemption on the two units I lived in, and use the 1031 exchange on just the unit I kept as soley a rental

Post: Capital gains exemption

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181
Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:
Originally posted by @Richard Townsend:

I rented out my primary residence for the past two years, but lived in it for the three years prior to that. The tenant has moved out, and now I am considering selling it.

Does the fact that it was recently a rental impact the capital gains exemption for homeowners of up to $250k ($500k if married)?

 You are eligible for the exemption. You only need to pay unrecaptured 1250  depreciation tax. It is taxed at your ordinary rate capped at 25%.

Basically all the depreciation you took in last two years times the ordinary rate, roughly. 

 Hi Ashish,

So for if i was doing a triplex living in 1 unit then another unit 2 years each could I take advantage of 4 yrs of 5 yrs moving from one unit to another with the sect 21 cap gains exemption?

When I convert a rental unit into an owner occ unit then would I have to pay back the recapture dep tax that year?  
I lived in one unit 2016-2018, another unit 2018-2020, and I plan to sell at end of 2020. This is for a triplex that I owner occupy too thanks! Susan

Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:

@Grayson Graham 

I grew up in Bend! Small world. 

If you AIR bnb part of your property it will turn that % to business use. You are correct- it will be much like if you rented 1/2 of a duplex. 

It will reduce the amount of your primary exemption you get to utilize- HOWEVER. You can do a 121/ 1031 combined sale. 

Meaning if 50% of your property ends up being a rental and 50% stays your primary. You can sell the property....your 1/2 will be tax free via the 121 primary exemption...and if you buy a new rental you can roll the gain from the business 1/2 into that via a 1031 exchange and not pay any tax there. 

@Dave Foster Is a great resource for 1031 questions. 

 So does that same go for a triplex?  If you lived in one unit of triplex for 2 years then another for 2 years.... could you then get home owners exemption for the 66.66% units you occupied then you 1031 exchange ONLY the 1/3 unit that you did not occupy?