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All Forum Posts by: Mike Hartzog

Mike Hartzog has started 20 posts and replied 545 times.

Post: Greetings From Atlanta, GA

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Welcome to BP!

Post: Is a heavy discount on a NPN usually a red flag? Why would it be so cheap?

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I should have mentioned also that an impending tax deed sale (as opposed to a tax lien sale) can pressure a note holder to sell if they cannot afford to pay the taxes.  If you see taxes due from 2012 for example, a tax deed sale of the property could be imminent, and in that case as a note holder you will need to redeem the tax lien to prevent a foreclosure by the county for taxes which would wipe out your 1st lien note.  If there are delinquent taxes due I make it a practice to ask when the next county tax deed sale is scheduled .

Post: Is a heavy discount on a NPN usually a red flag? Why would it be so cheap?

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@Jay Chen - Regarding your original question, the factor that is most likely to cause a seller to offer it cheap is taxes due.  Taxes due take 1st position in front of the first mortgage loan, and high annual taxes can make holding a property expensive.  Before buying anything you need to go to the county and get both taxes due and annual tax rate.  Consider taxes due to be part of your original investment in the note. 

@Bill Gully - Getting deed-in-lieu can be a good strategy but we need to keep in mind that junior liens are not wiped out with DIL as they are with a foreclosure action. So if you cannot do a workout with the lender and need to take the property, your approach to that may be dictated by the presence of junior liens, which can include 2nd DOT as well as judgments, etc.

When you bid on a note from FCI, the collateral files are shared with you so that you can complete due diligence before moving forward with the purchase. You will generally see an O&E report (title search) as part of that package. If one is not included you can order one from a title company. Personally I order mine from Abstrax. On the report you will see things like taxes, judgements, 2nd DOT etc. Make sure you note the date of the report and order a new one if it is old. Don't rely on it for taxes due. Check with the county tax collector.

Post: Activating Utilities in Buyers name?

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@Matt Overbee - It can't hurt to ask the utility if they have a process for it.  They have certainly had the request before.

Mike

Post: Need help!!

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I should have mentioned that it is best to have the attorney do the closing as well rather than trying to get it done at a title company.

Post: Need help!!

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If you are trying to do a simultaneous (back-to-back) close, I would contact a good local RE attorney that is familiar with the process.  Just tell the attorney exactly what you are doing.  If they can't help you, ask for a referral.  The attorney should be able to provide the proper purchase and sale contract which allows you to assign it to your investor. (Generally this is a standard contract which includes "and/or assigns" after your name as the purchaser.) There is also an contract between you and the investor for your fee.

Post: Renting Current Home Question

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I have to agree with @Erik Hitzelberger.  Too often people have "make money" as their goal.  While this is a good goal, it's not specific enough.  One approach that worked well for me is to define the income level I need to have in retirement.  When we get to retirement age, we want recurring passive income rather than the type of income we have to work for every day.  In other words, we want our capital to do the work for us so we don't have to.  With that defined, one can lay out a road-map to get there.

I think it is helpful to separate REI activities into two categories; those that generate a one-time cash payment quickly with a lot of work on our part like wholesaling and flipping, and those that generate passive recurring revenue like rentals and notes. When we reach retirement age, we want to have enough of the second category to provide the income we need. On the way there, we want to be consistently adding to these types of assets.

If you invested all of your assets in income producing investments like rentals and notes today, would the yield fund retirement? If the answer is no, one option is to start engaging in some flipping and/or wholesaling to generate additional capital that can be used to start building up these passive income investments. One thing you don't want to do is tie up all of your working capital to purchase a passive investment and leave yourself out of position to make your next move. Regardless of what the gurus say, it is much easier to do REI if you have capital to work with.

Post: Acquiring a Property Prior to Tax Sale

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Hi Denayer,

Sounds like a great approach.  I don't have a specific recommendation, other than simply telling them that you are interested in purchasing in the area and was curious if they were interested in selling.  You might consider posting this on the Wholesaling forum.  These folks have this type of conversation frequently and could probably give you some specific suggestions.

Mike 

Post: PTL PARTNERS LLC

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Hi Michelle,

CorporationWiki is a good site for these types of searches.  Not all entities show up, but I found one with that name in California.  Looks like it is inactive.  If that's the one you are looking for you might follow-up by searching the California Secretary of State website for more details.

http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Yucaipa/ptl-partners-llc/46937958.aspx

Mike

Post: How can I buy a house

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Because your cash position is small at this point, I suggest you start out wholesaling.  You can do that without cash and in the process you will learn your market and learn what a good deal looks like.  As your cash position grows, you can then begin buying for yourself while you continue wholesaling.  There are resources on this site that will help you learn how to get started.

Mike