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All Forum Posts by: John Jacobus

John Jacobus has started 18 posts and replied 202 times.

Post: First MHP deal suggestion and advice

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Mike Zhou

- Is the park located in a metro area with 75k+ population?  If not, you may have a hard time filling the vacancies.

- To gain an understanding of the demand for your product in the area, run test ads for home rentals and lot rentals at your proforma rental rates.  Post generic ads on Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and the local newspaper describing your park, the homes, and the general location.  Provide a Grasshopper or Burner number and monitor the incoming calls.  Aim for 20 calls per week as a measure of strong demand.

- Talk to local MH dealers and gain an understanding of the sales volume for new and used homes in the area.  Place flyers in the dealerships for your park.  Typically, dealers get paid when they deliver and install homes on the site.  Therefore, placing ads in their dealership should be welcomed.  In my experience, they are always seeking parks with vacancies into which they can deliver new homes.  

- You can fill empty lots with used homes or new homes.  You can find used homes on craigslist or FB marketplace.  You can also find them at local MH dealerships.  Partnering with MH investors to have them place their MH rentals in your park is also an option, though I would be careful with this and limit the number of investor homes in your park to 10% from a single investor.

- On the surface, 17 occupied lots for $250k doesn’t seem crazy but there are many other factors to evaluate, such as: 

—> Are lot rents $200+/month?  

—> How many park owned homes?  What age and condition are they?

—> Is the park serviced by municipal utilities? 

—> In what condition are the roads?

—> What are the lot rents in the surrounding area?  Are other parks in the area full or do they have high vacancy such as the park under consideration?

—> How to you plan to finance this park?  banks won’t be too interested given the high vacancy.  I suggest asking the seller to carry a note while you fill the vacant lots.  You should be able to refi into a traditional bank loan once you fill the park.

- I suggest re-examining the cap rate to ensure that the NOI is based on lot rents only. If home rent is included in the stated cap rate of 14%, then it's inflated. Capitalize lot rents only and add a shell value for the park owned homes to get a sense of the park's estimated market value.

- To fill vacancies, advertise daily on Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, the local newspaper, and in dealerships.  Offer move-in incentives, such as subsidized moving and installation incentives and / or 2-3 months’ free lot rent.  Network with mobile home investors and have them bring their rentals into your park.  Offer s referral bonus to residents who refer friends/family into the park.  If you have decent traffic flow, place flags and new signs highlighting your park.  Setup a website, Facebook page, Insta account and Zumper account for your park.  Register the park on Google Maps / Google My Business.  Explore all avenues to raise awareness about your park and the fact that vacant lots exist.

I have neither heard of nor used CCI Investments. They may be solid operators and advisors but I would caution you about paying for the services of a firm like CCI for a park this small. The fees associated with their services may burden the financials on a small park like this unless there is significant upside in the pro-forms (pushing rents, expanding # of lots, and filling vacant lots). Instead of employing a third party, you may want to consider partnering with an experienced operator as a JV partnership on this deal. If you aspire to own and operate MHP's, this may be your best way to learn while "on-the-job". It will require giving up some equity in the project but you may gain a richer experience which will serve you well in the future.

There is also a ton of free educational info available to help close your knowledge gap.  Check out the podcasts from Jefferson Lilly, Frank Rolfe, Ryan Narus  and Kevin Bupp.  There is a ton of info in their respective podcasts about “the first 90-days”, filling vacancies, and advertising for new residents.

Finally, feel free to reach out to me if you have operational questions.  We focus on moderate/heavy turnaround MHP’s and have a fair amount of experience resolving 20%-50% vacancy issues and executing park expansions and major infill projects.

Post: First time investor

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Konstantinos Porfyris A few things to consider:

- What is the lot rent vs the rent for the mobile homes? You can only capitalize the lot rent portion in your valuation. Therefore, the $31k NOI stated above may be inflated. I suspect the lot-rent NOI is at most half of the stated $31k, which makes the cap rate closer to 10% (still not bad).

- What type of utilities exist on the property?  Municipal utilities or private utilities?  On smaller deals such as this, I would be cautious about taking over a park with private utilities as the cost of repairs may be catastrophic to the smaller operational base.

- What is the size of the metro area in which the park is located?  I would be cautious about buying a small park in a rural town in the southeast as you may not have room to grow rents and/or attract residents.

- 16 acres with 8 homes is very low density.  Is there room to expand?  If this park is located in a decent metro area (75k+ population), you may have significant upside as a result of establishing new lots and bringing in additional homes.  Typically, you can bring in 5-10 lots per acre, subject to local zoning, density, and offset requirements.

- Financing this park may be difficult due to the low price.  I suggest asking for the seller to carry a note.

There is a decent group of MHP investors in NYC and we meet regularly to discuss our pipeline, partner in deals, and explore opportunities.  We meet regularly at events such as the one below.  I look forward to seeing you there and/or connecting through other means.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/682438-mobile-home-park-investor-meet-up-in-nyc-mhp-tribe

@Tori Kolasa Here are a few resources that I found valuable when I was learning about the details of investing in mobile home parks:

Books:

  1. Mobile Home Park 10/20 Investment System by Dave Reynolds, Frank Rolfe
  2. Mobile Home Wealth Part 2: How to Become Even Wealthier investing in Mobile Home Parks by Zalman Velvet, Stuart Silver
  3. The New Investor's Guide to Owning A Mobile Home Parkby Laura Cochran, Erin Cochran

Podcasts:

  1. The Mobile Home Park Investing Podcast with Kevin Bupp and Charles DeHart
  2. Mobile Home Park Investors with Jefferson Lilly
  3. Mobile Home Park Mastery with Frank Rolfe
  4. Mobile Home Parks in Real Life with Ryan Narus

Websites/Blogs:

  1. Park Street Partners - http://parkstreetpartners.com- This is the investment firm run by Jefferson Lilly and Brad Johnson. They focus on mobile home parks and have solid educational content on their website.
  2. Mobile Home Park Investors - http://mobilehomeparkinvestors.com - This is the LinkedIn group led by Jefferson Lilly. It's the largest group on LinkedIn that is exclusively focused on mobile home park investing.
  3. Mobile Home University - http://www.mobilehomeuniversity.com - This is the site maintained by Dave Reynolds and Frank Rolfe. I recommend subscribing to their newsletter.
  4. Mobile Home Park Academy - https://mobilehomeparkacademy.com/21-biggest-mistakes/

Post: 90% LTV Purchase Program

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Brent Brentham We have two mobile home park projects in Texas that may benefit from this type of debt financing.  

a) Expansion of a stabilized mobile home park we own in San Antonio - Financing needed:  $250k-$300k

b) Acquisition of a distressed mobile home park in NE Houston MSA - Financing needed:  $450k to acquire + $400k to expand/redevelop park

Questions for you:

1. Do you lend on mobile home parks?

2. Do you make construction loans in addition to loans for acquisitions? 

3. Are these loan sizes large enough to interest you?

Post: Developing spaces in Mobile Home Park

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Jon S Strick We are going through this process in San Antonio and Dayton, TX now.  As the others here mentioned before, it's critical to check with the local planning commission and city/county governing bodies.  There are several areas that must be vetted (utilities, land use, density, misc. infrastructure, fire service) before you can assume that an expansion is feasible.  Please feel free to reach out to me directly to discuss our experience to date. 

Post: First Mobile Home Park Investor Meet - Up in NYC / MHP tribe

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

I can’t make it this time but I’ll be there in spirit.  We are seeking construction financing from private sources to expand our 3 MHP’s in TX and NC.

Post: First House Hack!!! Jacksonville Florida duplex

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Brett Nissen I’m looking to relocate to Jacksonville in the next 12-18 months and am looking in the same neighborhoods (Avondale, Riverside, and San Marco) for a House Hack.  I’m seeking referrals to investor friendly agents who understand the house hack approach and can help me creatively find and create a $0 cost of living scenario.  Do you have any referrals you can share?  Congrats on your recent success with this powerful approach to wealth building!

Post: House Hack Atlanta, GA

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

I am looking for the same!

Post: Mobile home park investing

John JacobusPosted
  • Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 224
  • Votes 333

@Erhart Asaad We own a mobile home park in San Antonio and are looking to acquire more in Central Texas.  Let’s connect.  We are open to a variety of collaboration methods and I can help you navigate this unique niche in terms of education and networking.