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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Masoud

Matthew Masoud has started 42 posts and replied 317 times.

Post: Why I'm quitting MTR Multifamily for Retail/Industrial

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Mike Dymski:

@Matthew Masoud didn't you just post "ask me anything" about MTRs within the past month?  If so, that's pretty disingenuous to promote a strategy as a subject matter expert and leave out important challenges.  I liked your post because I thought it was helpful and actually PM'ed you, which I rarely do.  Now, I feel fooled/deceived (and it does not matter that the strategy is still profitable).

Hey Mike I think it's more of a personality thing than anything.

Some really love customer service and working with guests to meet their needs. 

I've networked with others who have massive STR portfolios and love the exact thing I'm complaining about. 

Post: Why I'm quitting MTR Multifamily for Retail/Industrial

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

congratulations on accumulating a portfolio of this size and your success so far.  i have property management for my LTRs, but still am hands-on sometimes - landscaping, getting bids for capex, etc.  i was going to say - sounds like you need a PM - but you got there first.  good luck and i hope you find someone that is a good fit.


 Thanks Nick. I love real estate and running the numbers but don't like managing tenants.

Post: Why I'm quitting MTR Multifamily for Retail/Industrial

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353

I've been investing in multifamily for 2 years now. I'm up to 40 units. I operate my apartment buildings as mid-term rentals.

It's been a nightmare.

Returns are amazing but it's a full-time job. 

Tenants expect hotel-level services. Here are some examples.

- I had a guest call me yesterday at 9 p.m. asking for additional towels. 

- I had a nurse complain that the tenant was being loud at 3:00 in the afternoon (she works nights).

- I had a tenant call me about my couch not being comfortable enough. Threatened to leave if I didn't give them a new couch.

- I had two washing machines and an AC break down.

- I had a guest cancel a reservation because she did not know it was a 2nd-floor apartment and she couldn't walk upstairs

This all happened over the past 3 days.

After thinking long and hard, I decided I'd rather take a much smaller return with retail/industrial but with significantly less work. 

I quit my job to manage these rental units and to be honest with you all, I liked my engineering job better.

My plan is to hire someone full-time to manage these units (since that will be significantly less than paying 20%-25% for PM company).

Even after paying an employee, I'm still netting $400/door. I'm working on creating the systems and processes so that I can manage this person effectively from anywhere in the world. 

If this works well I may continue adding units but under that PM. I won't manage MTR/STR myself anymore.

Thank you for listening to me moan and complain ðŸ˜‚

Post: Where is the best place to find good multifamily investment properties?

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Grant T.:
Quote from @Matthew Masoud:

Best deals I've gotten were found off market by contacting multifamily owners directly and making them an offer.

They net more because no agents are involved and I'm the only one competing so I'm likely to get a better price.

I've gotten good deals on market but they come in one of two ways.

1. It's been listed for a while (or fallen out of contract 2/3 times) and I come in with a low offer that gets accepted.

2. I make a cash offer without 1 hour of the property hitting the market and make it expire by end of business day.

Awesome Advice, I like the cash offer that expires at the end of the day. If the right property comes up, that is definitely something I would do. When it comes to off-market deals, how do you find the owners? Also, how do you find the financials, additional pictures, and anything else you need to confirm it is something you want to purchase? 

 I find the owners using a software called PropertyRadar. There are many out there that do the same thing but that's the one I went with.

Financials and any additional information needed to make an offer will need to come from the owner.

It's a lot of rejection but once you get the right owner on the phone you can get a sweet deal.

Post: Non Assignable Contracts

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353

If it says in the contract it's not assignable.

Everything goes back to the contract you have with the seller.

Post: 10 Unit Mid-Term in Small Market

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Steve Garcia:

That sounds great Matthew! Any particular software you are using to find off market deals? What position was the property owner in that they considered selling? Tired landloard? 


I used PropertyRadar to pull a list of multifamily property that fit my criteria then just contacted the owners.

The owner had 4 empty units that they did not have the funds to get rent ready. They were bleeding money every month.

Post: Where is the best place to find good multifamily investment properties?

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353

Best deals I've gotten were found off market by contacting multifamily owners directly and making them an offer.

They net more because no agents are involved and I'm the only one competing so I'm likely to get a better price.

I've gotten good deals on market but they come in one of two ways.

1. It's been listed for a while (or fallen out of contract 2/3 times) and I come in with a low offer that gets accepted.

2. I make a cash offer without 1 hour of the property hitting the market and make it expire by end of business day.

Post: Medium Term Rental Leases

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Sheila F.:

Does anybody know about medium rental lease is? Is it only the timeframe that differs from a long-term rental lease? I’m branching into medium and short term rentals and I’m doing my due diligence right now! Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated!  


 Leases are similar except I take out the language that allows the contract to switch to month to month.

We do a background check, and credit check unless they'd rather show documentation from work for travel. We'll take that instead.

Post: Seller won't sign termination agreement - help!

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 324
  • Votes 353
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Jessica Giles:

Hi all, I just sold a property and am in my 45 day window with a 1031 exchange to identify a new one. I did so early on and went under contract, but the inspection revealed MAJOR structural issues that cause use to terminate under our inspection out. Unfortunately, the seller's agent has been very aloof and non-responsive from day 1, and the last we heard was that the seller wanted to consult w his lawyer and refused to sign our mutual termination agreement. I have $4k in stuck escrow, but the bigger issue is that I can't make any new offers and am under the gun with my exchange. Any experience with this? Do I need to get an attorney involved? Do you know one in St Louis?


 I will NEVER understand why so many go to contract PRIOR to the walk through. How can you make an offer NOT knowing the reno????  YES you need an attorney, NEXT time walk the property 1st, Lesson learned. 


 Lol just made an offer on 61-unit property. No way to walk the property 60k sqft without being under contract. Easier said than done.

We operate STR/MTR out of multifamily apartments. So we don't have the typical vacation "house".

Our Florida properties were seeing a decrease in occupancy so we had to adjust our pricing. Margins are smaller but still very profitable.

Our STRs in smaller markets are unchanged (Dayton, Raleigh, Tuscon).

Some markets are oversaturated and many people purchased property that doesn't pencil out as long term rentals. Those people will be in trouble if this trend continues.