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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Masoud

Matthew Masoud has started 41 posts and replied 312 times.

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
  • Investor
  • Dayton/Cincinnati/Columbus
  • Posts 319
  • Votes 350
Quote from @Michael Guildford:

If you want to slowly build a direct booking business you need to get the emails and phone numbers from all your guests. The OTAs aren’t going to give them to you so use a data collection system like Emailcollect that will do it for you. A QR Code the takes you to a contact form that’s the gateway to the free WiFi is all you need to get data of every guest staying.


 This is the key to recurring business. 

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
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Quote from @James Carlson:

@Matthew Masoud

Love the post. (I like my original points better, of course, but this is a great discussion.) 

So much of my response can be boiled down to: 

1. Hating that Airbnb owns the STR market is not the same as having actual power to meaningfully break away from it.

2. Is the time and effort worth the marginal savings (if any)?

Owning Your Business Vs Operating within another business
I agree, owning your own business would be awesome, but this falls in category No. 1 -- it sucks, but what can you do about it?

OTA Customer Service
Ditto the first point.

Saving on Fees
I'm interested in this. A direct booking site still has to process a credit card payment. Am I missing something? That costs 1-3%, so are we saving anything? 

Getting on Google Travel
Again, I'm interested. If this got legs, this could send meaningful numbers your way. (Awesome!) Then again, if it got big, then everyone's on it, and you're lost in the shuffle again, likely only to rise to the top by paying some ad dollar to Google. 

Extending Reservations off other platforms
Can't recommend AGAINST this enough. Sure fire way to get kicked off the biggest growing STR platform.

Google SEO
When I type in "Denver vacation rental," my hand cramps up from scrolling so far down in an effort to find a non-corporate site. It doesn't exist. 

Like @Michael Baum said, SEO isn't a small-time game anymore. People get paid $90k a year to do this professionally to make sure the little guy doesn't get seen.

Diversification
Totally agree in diversification 

Thanks again for continuing the discussion. Cheers!


I think for the vast majority of STR owners your advice holds, that it's not worth the time. Once you get passed 3 rentals and want to keep scaling and really build a business out of it, it's time to get that site up!

Cheers!

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
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  • Dayton/Cincinnati/Columbus
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  • Votes 350
Quote from @Michael Guildford:

If you want to slowly build a direct booking business you need to get the emails and phone numbers from all your guests. The OTAs aren’t going to give them to you so use a data collection system like Emailcollect that will do it for you. A QR Code the takes you to a contact form that’s the gateway to the free WiFi is all you need to get data of every guest staying.


 Great idea. I’ve been saving phone number details from airbnb

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
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  • Dayton/Cincinnati/Columbus
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Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

I tend to agree more with this than the other post.  For reference, I am a PM company owner with around 70 listings.  As I stated on the other post, we have poured some cash into our site, SEO, marketing campaigns etc to garner more direct bookings.  What truly fueled this was our desire to avoid Airbnb's often arbitrary guest refunds.  I also whole heartedly agree if you rely on Airbnb for your business than you really do not have a business.  

I think it is non-negotiable for a Property Manager to have an optimized guest booking site. I think if you are an investor with 1 listing or if you are renting an ADU etc I am not sure how worth it is.


 Yeah if you are doing this just to generate some extra income with 1-2 units, the work-to-reward ratio is just not there.

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Good post @Matthew Masoud.

I have to push back a little on the SEO comments. SEO has gotten so complex that the average Joe really has no chance of ranking on something as common as "vacation rental" or the like.

You are correct that each location will have different levels, but overall, the Google SEO rankings are much more that physical location.

I would love it to be more like it used to be. There are multi million dollar companies that have arisen to build SEO.

I still think it can be an added benefit to have your own booking site. IMHO, Wordpress is a great way to build your own. Tons of widgets and plug ins just for STRs. Some are free. A great number of themes just for STRs are available.


 Yeah wordpress is great for SEO but adds a layer of complexity for building the site.

Post: Hot take: Personal booking websites for your STR are Mandatory

Matthew MasoudPosted
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There's a popular post circling about why direct booking sites for STR/MTR are overrated. Although the author makes some good points it skips over many of the benefits and how the risks can be mitigated.

Owning Your Business Vs Operating within another business

In 2019 Airbnb had a hiccup in their algorithm where some listings simply did not show up on searches for several months. The issue was eventually fixed but many landlords lost thousands of dollars.

Airbnb and VRBO change their algorithm all the time

If you are relying entirely on 3rd party platforms, you don't have a business. You are operating within another business. It's like driving on Uber claiming you own a taxi business. No, you drive for Uber.

OTA Customer Service

We've all dealt with the poorly trained 3rd world customer service of these OTAs. The issue is, they hold all the cards.

They have the guest's payment information and process refunds erroneously all the time.

I had a guest complain of a smoke smell the day AFTER they checked out and claimed they never stayed in the apartment because of it. Airbnb refunded them the ENTIRE stay of nearly $2,000. We sued Airbnb in small claims court and won but you have little to no real power when dealing with the OTAs.

Saving on Fees:

Airbnb charges guests 14% and hosts 3%. So you can charge 15% more on your direct booking site and guests would still pay less booking through your direct booking site.

Getting on Google Travel:

Although Google Travel is one of the lesser-known OTAs it's not actually an OTA. They direct guests to your direct booking site where they make the reservation. 

Google Travel recently fired the head of the department for not being aggressive enough and is expected to grow its market share over the next few years due to its unlimited funding and access to the world's largest search engine

Google Travel is also not the only platform that syndicates listings from direct booking sites.

Extending Reservations off other platforms

If you've had STR/MTR for any length of time you know it's common for guests to ask to extend off the platform. Although most hosts don't allow it, they're leaving lots of money on the table.

Tread cautiously as this does violate many platform's terms of service.

Additional steps are required to protect yourself, which I'll review in the Drawbacks Section of this post

Google SEO

Depending on your niche and location, you can rank on Google Search for "rentals in your city". This does take quite a bit more work to SEO optimize your site but in many markets, you can rank above the OTAs. For example if you Google "Cabins in Big Bear" a direct booking site ranks #1. There are many thousands of searches a month for that key term.

Different Cities will have different competition levels for ranking.

Diversification:

Diversification applies beyond direct booking sites but you should have your listings everywhere.

- VRBO

- Booking.com

- Airbnb

- Google Travel (through Direct Booking Site)

- Furnish Finder (Direct Booking Site)

Speaking of Furnish Finder. For my Mid Term Rental Hosts out there. We know Furnish Finder has no booking feature. Guests are expected to book with you directly. Not having a place for them to finalize their reservation can look unprofessional. A direct booking site allows guests to make the reservation with less work on your part, extend the reservation as they see fit, and even charge a deposit or upsell.

41% of our bookings last year were from direct booking sites.

Drawback to Direct Booking Sites

- It's Work: You save time in the long run but it is work upfront. There are platforms out there to make it easier for you like Hostaway, Guests, or Lodgify.

- You need supplemental insurance to protect yourself. You are not covered by the OTAs insurance. So there is an additional cost but it's typically much less than the fees charged by the OTA platform. We've also mitigated losses with a security deposit.

- No Reviews: As hosts we can filter out potential harmful guests using reviews. Our team has mitigated that risk by collecting a security deposit and asking good questions.

- Marketing for Gurus as mentioned in the other post, many gurus use this as an opportunity to try to sell expensive courses. Although some have value you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to learn to set up a direct booking site.

- Rental Agreements - You'll need guests to sign rental agreements and upload a photo of their IDThis may sound like a lot of work but again, use software to automate

Final Thoughts

The STR/MTR space is getting crowded. Depending on your market, you may have already seen a decline in occupancy. If not, it's coming. Thanks to the aggressive rise of Airbnb, many of us hosts have experienced a period of abundance. The reality is, it's not going to last.

Only those hosts treating this as a business and offering the best product are going to keep both rates and occupancy high.

Post: What Percentage of your reservations come from Airbnb?

Matthew MasoudPosted
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  • Dayton/Cincinnati/Columbus
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Quote from @Glen Wiley:

90% of our bookings come from AirBNB, the rest are VRBO.

A few concerns that I have with direct bookings:

1. At least people have ratings on the OTA and I can see if other hosts have had issues. I know this is imperfect but it is better than nothing.

2. Eyes on listing - the OTAs get a huge number of searchers and in small markets it is not hard to stay on the top of the listings for the area. How do I get exposure outside the OTA?


 1. Yes Airbnb does provide reviews which helps us filter out bad tenants but boy do you pay for it. We charge a deposit on direct bookings to offset this risk. 

2. We get traffic to direct bookings from Furnish Finder, Google Travel, and guests looking to extend off airbnb.

We have special insurance since we aren't covered by aircover.

Is it more work? absolutely. Is it more risk? yes. But getting a vast majority of your bookings from a single platform is also a HUGE risk that most people ignore because times are still good. That's not going to last forever.

Post: Investing in Dayton

Matthew MasoudPosted
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Be careful to avoid the D class areas of Dayton. I made that mistake when buying in Dayton from California.

Hi can you tell me what are  D areas I’m looking to invest in zip code 45405 it’s in Montgomery county also can you recommend some good zip code or county to invest in thanks 

 45405 and 45406 are indeed D class areas.

 How about 45402 and 45403?    Looking at two rentals there.  Thanks!


 45402 things start to get better. Personally I avoid this area:

There are pockets in here where you can certainly make money but I had some bad experiences all over there.


 Thanks for the info/insight.   The 2 properties are rehabbed and my contact is selling them for 110K each.   

What tools do you use to decide whether a neighbourhood is C or D etc?   Crime sites?   


 Mostly experience. I used to own there.  Talking with other landlords. Driving through those neighborhoods. ect.

Post: What Percentage of your reservations come from Airbnb?

Matthew MasoudPosted
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Quote from @Rolly Weaver:

Matthew, Would be interested to see your site for direct booking. 

I'm in the process of making a site for our Cabins off Airbnb right now.

Nothing too Special. My property management software creates it for me.

 book.suprcap.com

Post: Investing in Dayton

Matthew MasoudPosted
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  • Dayton/Cincinnati/Columbus
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Quote from @Jay Black:
Quote from @Matthew Masoud:
Quote from @Denita Isaac:
Quote from @Matthew Masoud:

Be careful to avoid the D class areas of Dayton. I made that mistake when buying in Dayton from California.

Hi can you tell me what are  D areas I’m looking to invest in zip code 45405 it’s in Montgomery county also can you recommend some good zip code or county to invest in thanks 

 45405 and 45406 are indeed D class areas.

 How about 45402 and 45403?    Looking at two rentals there.  Thanks!


 45402 things start to get better. Personally I avoid this area:

There are pockets in here where you can certainly make money but I had some bad experiences all over there.