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All Forum Posts by: Dave Metsker

Dave Metsker has started 5 posts and replied 150 times.

Post: talking with a realtor representing homeowner

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

It all depends on the motivation of the homeowner.  The realtor may be just looking over the paperwork (good), or he may try to force a retail offer (bad).  Keep us informed, if you need help.

Post: Probate Marketing

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

@Mike McFadden 

I use [email protected].  They are the least expensive that I have found.

Post: Probate Marketing

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

@Account Closed 

If you are new to probate investing, I would stick to the mid-level or  lower end of the price range in your area.  A good guide is the blue collar area.  Avoid high crime areas.

Post: Find Them before MLS

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

@Robert Laird 

Welcome to Portland area Bigger Pockets network. You covered most of the sources that we use. I would add MLS expired listings, code violations, evictions and obituary listings in the Oregonian newspaper as additional sources. Become part of the NorthwestREIA.com group, if you are not yet a member.

Post: Probate

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

@Uyenchi Ho 

 Correction, that is the old URL.  The new one to ask for is www.myfirstam.com.  Tell them you plan to buy some properties, and will be happy to have them do the title insurance  work.

Post: Probate

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

@Uyenchi Ho 

Contact your title company, and request a free property data base account, where you can look up properties, obtain ownership and tax values, and in the better programs, comps and trust deed information.  I use First American Title Company's www.myfirstagent.com, and have been very pleased with the result.

It is simple.  If the probate has not yet deeded the property to you, get that done now.  Write a change of address on the monthly payment coupon, showing your address as the new address.  Start/continue making the regular payments on time.  This is called "taking a mortgage subject to".  I did this nine years ago for a deceased family member, and the lender has never refused a payment.  Have the hazard insurance add you as an additional loss payee on the policy.

Post: Data lists in Canada

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

It is work, but you can compare the obituarty columns in the major newsparer(s) with the tax assessor records, to form your own "probate lists".  I obtain this list done for me by a list broker, for US properties, sorted by property zip code.

Post: probate

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64

Rick again hits a home run.  I love probate problems.  Often, even the attorneys do not have the solution.  The bigger the problem, the bigger the profit.

Post: probate

Dave MetskerPosted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 174
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Rick H.:

Good question(s). Probate estates may remain open almost indefinitely under certain circumstances.

The primary reason that estates remain open, unsettled and not distributed is due to disputes among parties, typically heirs (or beneficiaries under a will). This category also includes will contests where the validity of a certain will is challenged, sometimes over subsequent or prior testamentary documents or alterations and even death-bed requests.

Title problems occasionally snag estate for some time. Beside clouds and secured creditors, there can be issues arising from poorly drafted documents as well as vesting issues. A nasty problem can occur when a partition action is required in order to force separation and liquidation. Not a play for those new to real estate to work.

Missing heirs may delay estates, especially when decedent purported has relatives in 3rd world nations where skip-tracing and investigation can be difficult or treacherous. 

Complexity adds time to unravel the puzzle. This is one of my specialties.

Size or number of assets. For example, decedent dies with dozens or perhaps hundreds or properties and many transactions require serial liquidation, unless sold as a package. Large assets cause similar delays when buyers are scarce or financing tortuous.

Cash cow. A girlfriend of mine was once negotiating with the estate of Marilyn Monroe to buy intellectual property rights for a line of jewelry. It occurred to me that such estates continue to produce revenue, especially royalties, and may be operated as an ongoing entity. The best example: The estate of Elvis Presley which is well-managed and worth much than at the time of his death in 1977.