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All Forum Posts by: Stevo Sun

Stevo Sun has started 12 posts and replied 311 times.

Post: Property Management Question in a small town

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171

That's a fairly common issue in smaller markets. I think the only suggestion I have is that some times realtors in the area will help manager their client's rentals. So I would give that a try. Good luck!

Post: Seeking Advice on Scaling My Real Estate Portfolio in PEI

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171

You'll likely have to go the commercial loan route. Conventional mortgages can't happen at that pace without a significant income (or your rental income is significantly higher than the debt repayments). Since the banks in Canada do not count your rental income at full value, your GDS/TDS ratios will be out of wack as you get more conventional mortgages and at some point you'll be topped out.

Post: Advice to finance my next deal - Newer investor / Canada

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Patrick Mooney:

Hi all! 

First off THANK YOU to all the posters on the BP forum. I only discovered the podcast + platform about 10 months ago and was immediately hooked! It's from reading your posts and listening to the show that I managed to get my act together and buy my first place in North America.

I recently purchased my first investment in Edmonton Canada, a duplex where I have rented out the other unit (Closed on 1st June 2024 / $475k CAD price paid / 5% down payment). It's an older property and I haven't made any improvements yet as it was in great condition.

I'm trying to expedite the process of moving on to my next deal, although I will very likely need to put down 20% this time as it will be an investment property rather than a house hack. I'm trying to figure out how I can best finance my next deal without having to wait for either:

- getting together 20% cash downpayment

- waiting 12 months until I can do another 5% down on my next house hack

I'm looking for buy and hold so from what I've read short term financing (eg. for a fix and flip) likely isnt the best for my needs.
If it's useful info I have access to ~$60k line of credit at about 9% a year, and another $35k in credit card credit available (although no suggesting I'd use this to finance a deal). Very high credit score.

I gather majority of people are in USA and not Canada, but definitely appreciate any input you might have for an newer investor looking to keep the momentum train moving along. 

Thanks again and happy Sunday!


 Congratulations on the investment. I will tell you something you might not want to hear 😂. 

1) CMHC can deny your mortgage insurance for the next one if you house hack too fast. I had anecdotally heard this one so your mileage may vary. 

2) You might be stretching yourself too thin if you are just maxing out your leverage. If you get hit with something unforeseen can you absorb that cost? This is a consideration people forget. Your cashflow can't make up for some big capital expenses so you should have some reserve funds.

I'm similar to you that I just want to keep on going but I actually think Calgary and Edmonton will experience a slowing in rent increases. We are building record levels of housing units and those will come online in the next 1-5 years.This supply will put downward pressure on rent. Since Alberta has no rent control, rent will drop if the market gets oversupplied. 

Quote from @Micah Loewen:

I am wanting to do a cash-out/refi on a property 

CRA is auditing my 2022 taxes, bank won't initiate an application if taxes show owing. I have sent everything back to CRA and expect full amount owing to be reversed. But this will likely take months.  

Anyone have experience with a situation like this or any workarounds? 

P.S. if this was only a couple thousand dollar audit I would just pay CRA and then they'd refund me once they've finished re-assessment. 


 Yea it's unlikely the banks can refi with that on there. This is because CRA take priority in the debt stack. If you owe money to the CRA and refused to pay they can force a sale on your property and get paid. The CRA would also get the money before the bank, so you can understand why the bank wants nothing to do with that.

Post: Deal analysis in Canada

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Wayne Poisson:

Hey all, does anyone know of a good deal analysis calculator for Canada? Even just an accurate rent estimator would be huge. Thanks in advance!

I think rent estimator is the harder part. Any deal analysis tool will work, you can just plug in the numbers. But you'll have to do some leg work for the rent. We don't have aggregation of rent and it depends on location. Rentfaster is good for Alberta but not Ontario or BC. You just have to find the one used in the local market.

Post: How do you protect yourself when wholesaling

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Patrice Blain:

Hey there, I'm avidly reading about wholesaling in Canada and I was wondering what are the mechanism in place to protect yourself as a the wholesaler if the buyer doesn't come through or if the deal falls off. How do you protect yourself from having the responsibility to buy the house you were "representing"?

Thanks! 


 You have to be careful in Canada. The rules are drastically different than the US. Assignment sale is a thing but if you can't find a buyer, you could be on the hook. If you don't close the the seller could sue you. There was a judgment about some BC buyer who didn't close and they owed 350k in damages. They basically had to pay the difference and also didn't even get the house.

BC Buyer Owes 350k

Post: First time real estate investor in Windsor

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Huong Luu:

@Sat Palshetkar Welcome to the RE world and congradulations on jumping in. If you are planning on living there (ie in 1 unit) then you are house-hacking and this is a different calculation consideration then renting out both units and making it a true investment. If you are living there, then you need to weigh the benefits of having a home, as oppose to renting somewhere else. Your calculations should include utililies and repairs, legals, snow removal, etc. Keep in mind if you are house-hacking, you will only be able to write off a percentage of the bills. Even if you are negative cash flowing but living there, it may be worth it, as you are not paying rent to someone else. You need to consider how long you will live there. Anything less than 5 years may not be worth it. 

Will this property allow for Bill 23? If you are not going to leave there at all, and you can't do Bill 23 or have any value-add to get to positive cash flow, then NO, don't do it. 

As a side note: my 1st place was also a house-hack. Best financial move I made. 


 I mostly agree with Huong, but in specific cases, a small negative cash flow is not the end of the world. For example, if the property you are buying is a development property, like a small house with a large lot in a developing area, then a small negative cash flow could be okay if you can carry it. You have to be honest with yourself, understand the risks and assess if you can afford the negative cash flow. This is where your investment thesis comes in. Are you buying this property for cash flow? Are you buying this property for redevelopment? Are you buying this property for some other reason?

No one can answer this for you; you have to be intentional about what you plan. Some people have gotten lucky in the past, and the market has carried them through everything. This has been the experience in Vancouver and Toronto for the last while, where anything and everything just increased in value by crazy amounts. 

Where I am, the market has been flat and down for a long time. It has accelerated quite substantially in the last couple of years due to Ontario and BC migration (both in people and capital). But I don't think anyone can be sure if that will last.

Post: First time real estate investor in Windsor

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Sat Palshetkar:

Hey,

I'm a first time investor in real estate and my wife and I are planning to invest (with house hacking) in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Our agent is very helpful and found us a great deal (duplex). I wanted to share the numbers and want to make sense if it's a good deal for us according to what we are looking for.

Price: $450k (agent said that we can get it down to $420k)
2 Units (1 bedroom in each unit)
Mortgage with 3 year fixed comes up to around $2.3k
Insurance and tax is roughly $400
Rent per unit is $1.4k so if we move out then total rent comes up to $2.8k
There's a detached ADU (garage) that can give us another $100-$150 if we rent it for storage and there's a scope of converting it into another unit later on.

So currently rough calculation says that it can cashflow up to $300 per month. But my question is that if we consider other operating costs like maintenance, capital expenditure, vacancy, etc then this property won't cash flow, so is this a good deal? Am I stretching this too much by adding these operating costs?

The numbers are tough and it's hard to account for all unforseen expenses. There's no risk free investment in real estate. So it's really what you are comfortable with and what your investment thesis is.
Quote from @Jeremy H.:

So, if anyone search why doesn't Canada have 30 year fixed, the first article says they attach all your assets as collateral /lien.

Seems like getting a mortgage is a big deal, but is it true you will lose everything you own if you default (with Canadian mortgage)?


 Most places in Canada have recourse loans, so if you default they can go after you for everything. But the typical recourse is just foreclosure. If there is a gap after that they can do other things to make themselves whole.

Post: If tenant doesnt pay water bill Landlord has to

Stevo SunPosted
  • Calgary, AB
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 171
Quote from @Jay Smith:

Thanks Stevo, I appreciate the reply and you could do it that way however, it doesnt really solve the problem of a potential runaway water bill from say a toilet left running while the tenant is on vacation somewhere or some other problem where water is left on or leaking. I have heard a few stories in the news over the years where the bill is in the tens of thousands or worse. Thats what scares me.


 There's now way for you to mitigate that risk. The best case would be for them to have utilities in their name if that's your worry.