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All Forum Posts by: Steven W.

Steven W. has started 16 posts and replied 78 times.

Post: What would you do on this property?

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Jerry Padilla:

@Steven W.

Great thread!

Conventional financing only allows you to rate and term refinance once you reach mortgaged property 5. If you have 4 or less mortgaged properties you can cash out on the equity. 

As long as there is a lien on the property, you could always get private financing and then rate and term with conventional, as long as you have 10 or less mortgaged properties. 

 Hi Jerry,

I never thanked you for this very creative solution! I'd never thought of private financing as a solution.

Best,

Steven

Post: Progressive sellers market strategies

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Lawrence Robinson:

The best resource I have found for locating authentic wholesalers who bring deals with value is local REI meetings. You get to meet and learn first hand the players and exactly what they bring to the table. Experienced wholesalers are a great asset, but watch out for purported wholesalers who just paid for a course, have no skin in the game and have no real knowledge of the industry. It truly doesn't take much to determine their authenticity. In the future, try putting "Wholesaler" in your title and you'll get more direct responses locally and nationwide.

 Lawrence,

This is great advice. As someone who purchases SFRs from wholesalers in Jacksonville, it's readily apparent who knows the mindset of an investor, and who doesn't. I want to see estimated rehab costs (that actually come close at least to matching to a contractor's offer), pictures/videos, and a conservative ARV figure. I also want to hear about the wholesaler's experience in the area. Nothing wrong with being a newbie wholesaler--just don't try to bluff your way with mediocre deals.

Steven

Post: Looking for SFRs, small multis in Jacksonville, FL

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32

HI everyone, my name is Steven and I'm a San Francisco-based investor looking to increase my portfolio of properties in Jacksonville. I own two SFRs at the moment (both were rehabbed by my partners on the ground in Jax), and am looking to purchase a couple more this year.

I prefer the Murray Hill and St. Nicholas areas of town for now. I like 3/1 configurations, but will look at 2/1s if it allows for adding an extra bedroom during rehab. I am most interested in buy and hold, but will consider flips as well.

Thanks,

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32

@Mark Nolan @Zoran Stanoev @Account Closed

Thanks Michael, Mark and Zoran for the heads-up. I should clarify. I am planning outside of my 401k to partner with folks on the ground in a market outside of California to establish an LLC to purchase, rehab, and sell properties. I would put up the majority of the funding, but we would purchase the houses together, with all parties on title. We would agree to a split of the profits. I have purchased houses with these folks before as part of my buy/hold strategy (one of them is a RE agent).

However, I would also like to put some of my 401k funds into play in a similar scenario. In this case, I was told that it would be wiser just to act as the bank to fund the project, and not get on title, since getting on title and then selling properties could get me in hot water with the IRS.

If I understand you right, Michael, then I could/would have two LLC partnerships--one in my name with them, and one with my retirement account and them. Is that right?

In any event, I won't do anything until I speak with a RE attorney!

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Mark Nolan:

@Steven W.

Here are some of the main items to include on the promissory note.

  • After you have drawn up the note or if the borrower has composed it, review the note to make sure it conforms to your Solo 401k requirements and is in compliance with the regulations.
  • Confirm that the lender is your Solo 401k (it should read as follows, for example: Smith Do Solo 401k Trust)
  • Sign all documents as trustee of your Solo 401k
  • Make investment using funds from your Solo 401k checking account
  • When note payments commence, deposit all payments to your Solo 401k checking account (therefore, all payments need to be made payable to your Solo 401k)

 Mark,

Thanks so much for the detailed instructions! They are very helpful, as it's easy to overlook one of these steps.

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Jeff Amore:

Make sure that you protect yourself with a mortgage as well. It should help you if (heaven forbid) someone decides they don't want to pay you back the money you loaned them. Trust me, I learned this the hard way.

 Jeff,

Thanks! That's words to the wise.

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Mark Nolan:

@Steven W.

As long as you are not doing the work then yes it is common to have the solo 401k loan funds to a third party. This is known as a promissory note investment. If you reach out to you solo 401k provider hey should be able to provide you with a sample note--i know that we do. Lastly see the following BP blog post. 

https://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/3441/43352-structuring-a-self-directed-solo-401k-promissory-note-investment

 Mark,

Thanks so much for the quick response. That's so very helpful!

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32

Hi everyone,

I am working with partners to purchase SFRs, rehab them, and then sell them. I would provide the bulk of the capital through my Solo 401k plan. I've been told by my Solo 401k guru that I can do this only if my name is not on title, but rather, if I act as the bank and lend money to the buyers. That is, they would buy it with a loan from me, they would rehab, market it, sell it, and we would figure out an equitable way to split the profits.

Are there any draft documents out there that people can point me to that could provide a platform for us to create a legal agreement for this kind of partnering? I'm sure that we'll end up hiring a real estate attorney to make sure that all of the legal verbiage is correct, but I'd love to see what other people have used in the past!

Thanks,

Steven

Post: Loaning 401K Money to Fix/Flip Properties

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32

Hi everyone,

I am working with partners to purchase SFRs, rehab them, and then sell them. I would provide the bulk of the capital through my Solo 401k plan. I've been told by my Solo 401k guru that I can do this only if my name is not on title, but rather, if I act as the bank and lend money to the buyers. That is, they would buy it with a loan from me, they would rehab, market it, sell it, and we would figure out an equitable way to split the profits.

Are there any draft documents out there that people can point me to that could provide a platform for us to create a legal agreement for this kind of partnering? I'm sure that we'll end up hiring a real estate attorney to make sure that all of the legal verbiage is correct, but I'd love to see what other people have used in the past!

Thanks,

Steven

Post: Property Management Company in Birmingham, AL Recommendation?

Steven W.Posted
  • Investor
  • SAN FRANCISCO, CA - California
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 32

Thanks so much everyone. I had an excellent conversation with my PM, and there had been some communication issues that we resolved. I'm going to keep a more careful eye on my properties in Birm over the next couple of months and then reassess.