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All Forum Posts by: Steven Barr

Steven Barr has started 85 posts and replied 158 times.

Post: Thoughts on rehabbing fire damaged properties?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Jason Bott:

@Steven Barr yes, many times they will have too.  May only be for a week or 2.

Right now we are in a tight insurance environment.  When this happens underwriting will tighten up and will not allow things they may have been able to slide just a year or 2 ago.

5 years ago many insurance carriers would write these properties from day one without an inspection.   

@Jason Bott I imagine you can’t use hard money to buy fire damage properties then? As they would want insurance coverage

Post: Thoughts on rehabbing fire damaged properties?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Jason Bott:

We have a lot of clients do this and you definitely need to know your construction costs before you commit to it.  If the city comes back with a bunch of code upgrades that you did not plan on, that could quickly eat up all your margin.

Most insurance carriers will not pick it up a fire damaged property until the fire and water damage is remediated and the structure is stabilized.  Once that is complete, you can set up a Builders Risk policy and get traditional financing in place.

So are people buying them and beginning rehab without insurance?

Post: Thoughts on rehabbing fire damaged properties?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

What do y’all think about flipping properties that have a sizeable amount of fire damage?

Are there too many unknowns? Does it require pulling permits?

Thanks!

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

Inflation is easing up, next CPI on Dec 13th and rates are coming down fast now. 45% expenses do not make sense. And 5 year ARM's are a reasonable bet at the moment. For anyone with a portfolio that's the only financing we can get anyway.

@Marcus Auerbach what do you mean by 45% expenses don’t make sense? Are you saying that’s estimating too much? Or it’s a bad property if it’s that expensive

my breakdown of 45% is as follows:

Property mgmt: 14% or roughly $350/mo (assuming 10% of monthly rents and a fee of 1 months rent for placement with tenant staying for 2 years…. So 250 for monthly rents plus 100 for 2500 placement fee spread out over 24 month period)

Turn cost: 3% or roughly $75-85/mo assuming $2k of repairs necessary to turn it 

Vacancy: 4% or roughly $100/mo assuming 1 month to locate and place tenant in 24 month term 

Insurance: 4% or roughly $100/mo (using one of my properties as example here)

Property taxes: 9% or $225/mo (using on of my properties as examples)

Capital expenditures: 3% or $75/mo (amortizating roofs, hvac, water heater, etc… over their useful lifespan)

Operational expenses: 10% or $250/mo

So technically 46% in total. Somewhere between $1100-1200/mo roughly is the estimate

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Sam McCormack:

I don't find conventional financing to work with the 1% rule, I would say now it is like 1.25%. I have resorted to creative financing. With not as much demand, people are much willing to accept creative financing now, plus it provides a better return

@Sam McCormack can you provide an example of a creatively financed deal and how it would provide better cashflow than 20% conventional?

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I am, in Killeen Texas. Few hundred bucks off my BRRRR's

@Eliott Elias do you mind sharing your numbers?

(I also just realized I pressed wrong number on my calculator for expenses. Should have been $1125. So my example is actually more break even. Still not great and no cashflow)
 

Post: Birmingham, Alabama Over saturated Section 8?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

Birmingham is a very tough market. You can’t go by “area” or even “pockets”. It’s street by street. One street makes a world of difference between minor and major crime.

For section 8 specifically, lots of West coast investors came in over the last few years and bought a ton of homes which has given Sec 8 tenants a ton of supply to choose from. Very common to see them stay in a house for 1 year there, trash it, and move to next one

Not to say you can’t make it work, but much harder than just going on Zillow or to a wholesaler, buying a 70k property, and cashflowing 

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Fernando Figueroa:
Quote from @Steven Barr:

With home prices still very high and interest rates now high too, is anyone actually cashflowing on newly acquired property? Even the 1% rule doesn’t seem to work anymore 

Example: assuming 20% down

Purchase price: 250k

Rent: 2500/mo

Expenses: 1375/mo (45% expenses)

Debt service: 1350/mo (200k at 7% fixed 30 am)

Cashflow: -$225


 Do the numbers the other way around, and adjust the purchase price accordingly. Then you will cashflow. 

@Fernando Figueroa what do you mean by “do the numbers the other way around”?

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

With home prices still very high and interest rates now high too, is anyone actually cashflowing on newly acquired property? Even the 1% rule doesn’t seem to work anymore 

Example: assuming 20% down

Purchase price: 250k

Rent: 2500/mo

Expenses: 1375/mo (45% expenses)

Debt service: 1350/mo (200k at 7% fixed 30 am)

Cashflow: -$225

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Steven Barr:

@Dena Puliatti here's an actual quote: "...may be applied to the payment of accrued rent and the amount of damages that the landlord has suffered by reason of the tenant's noncompliance with Section 35-9A-301."

The first link explains how to handle the deposit. The second link lists requirements of the tenant. If section 301 requires them to keep the rental clean, then section 201 says they can be charged for failing to do so.

But I'm not an attorney.

Alabama deposit law: https://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2019/title-35/chapter-9a/article-2/section-35-9a-201/#:~:text=(a)%20A%20landlord%20may%20not,obligations%20under%20a%20rental%20agreement.

This shows what you can charge for and it does include cleaning: https://law.justia.com/codes/a...

@Nathan Gesner super helpful thank you!!