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All Forum Posts by: Steven Barr

Steven Barr has started 85 posts and replied 158 times.

Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Was the additional share footage permitted work? 

It was not and I believe this answers my question! 
Out of curiosity… who would do it if it was permitted?

I just rehabbed a house and I have the appraiser coming out in a few days….

There is some additional square footage now, but I am unsure how to officially record this for the appraiser to take into account 

Is this something that I can measure myself and just tell the appraiser? Or does a certified professional have to come do it? If so, who would that certified professional be?


thanks guys! 

I had someone approach me about Subject To. I know be very little about this, so figured it’d be easier to ask BP instead of burning an hour of research to find the answer 

Are you able to sell a property a few years into taking over the payments? Or are you locked in to the duration of the mortgage once you take over payments?

Post: Challenge: $30k a month in rental profit in 5 years?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Jessica Soares:

Challenge: How would you achieve a goal to make $30k a month in rental profit in 5 years?

Newbie here. I've set a goal for myself to make $30k a month in rental profit in 5 years (shoot for the moon goal for me). I have some cash in a retirement account that I want to stretch as much as possible to achieve this goal. I know it's not enough to make a down payment on a 5 fam+ unit though and I figure I need as many of those as possible to achieve the goal. So my plan is to:

1. Flip as many houses as I can to raise capital for the down payment on the MFDs. I already have one under contract that should net me a conservative profit of $50k. Another oppty just came to me this week that looks to be similar. But I don't have enough $$ to do both (ugh!) b/c I'm putting my cash into the first flip (need to figure out how to stretch dollars :)

2. Use profits I make from flips to buy a MFD.

3. Take the equity out of the MFD and reinvest that in another oppty (flip or MFD).

Keep doing this as long as I can.

Seasoned investors, how would you make this goal a reality? Any advice on the above plan would be greatly appreciated!

@Jessica Soares I am just starting out and actually have the exact same goal. We just bought our first deal. Where are you now? Were you able to achieve this?

Post: How much of your cash flow should you live off of?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Steve Vaughan:

We have been coast /medium FI for years and utilize about 60% of our free cf total.  This includes health insurance and taxes. 

The type of cf matters as well.  60% of ours is from seller-financed mortgages.   These don't vary so are more stable than rent. 

I would be more conservative if all my cf was from rent. Most of my op expenses on rentals run about 36% self-managed,  50% with a PM but I've had $30k outflow months so need a fat EF. 

60% works for us but we live pretty modestly and don't have a mortgage.  We are actually paid to live in our house, net of all expenses (t/i/m/r/u) or even our cell phones and internet because of a MIL apt. 

So everyone's situation is different.  We started building what freedom looks like to us 20 years ago by living in a trailer park on purpose for 5 years when we started.  

Whatever your calculation, don't forget health insurance or taxes.  Most do. 

@Steve Vaughan 60% feels like a good number and to @Jon Kelly’s point, probably allows you to continue to grow and have cushion at the same time for those bad months or bad economic periods

Appreciate the responses guys! This is very helpful in developing long term cashflow goals


Post: How much of your cash flow should you live off of?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56
Quote from @Scott E.:

If your cashflow is $30k per month then you must own a ton of real estate! Nice job. Hopefully you are funding savings accounts for each one of those properties for repairs, cap ex, and vacancies. That will help you weather bad economic times.

Assuming you area already setting aside savings prior to paying yourself that $30k per month, I say live on as much of it as you want! I do not have this much cash flow coming in as I'm much more of an active investor lately (flips) but if I did I would probably do:

$10k - Salary to live off of

$10k - Into a broad market index fund like VTI or VOO

$10k - Into a savings pot for future investments, vacations, toys, etc.

@Scott E. I should probably clarify that I am not currently cashflowing $30k/mo. I am just doing some foreword thinking as that is the 5 year goal. 

Just didn’t know if there was a rule of thumb in real estate that said “mortgage shouldn’t be more than 20% of your cash flow” or something along those lines

I am currently using 40-50% (depending on property) for capex, opex, vacancy, prop mgmt, etc… I shuffle that percentage of rent into a savings account for the property for inevitable expenses. So feel like I am being conservative, but still, building a lifestyle where I am living off of 100% of the cash flow just feels like there is little room for error 

Post: How much of your cash flow should you live off of?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

How much of your rental property cashflow should you live off of? 

For example, if I cashflow around $30k/month, how much of that should I ACTUALLY be spending on my lifestyle? What percentage should go towards my personal mortgage, toys, travel, etc..

Further, I wouldn't want to develop spending habits that had me on razor thin margins, so what should my OVERALL spending percentage be relative to my cashflow? 50%? 70%? 80%?

I understand the goal is to work to continually increase your cashflow by acquiring more properties over time, and that annual rent increases will give you a natural boost, but I imagine you want some cushion built in to your spending habits for inevitable bad times economically?

Thanks! 

Post: Best National Bank to Use?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

Do y'all have any recommendations for most RE friendly bank to use? I would like to be using a big name bank with branches everywhere like Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc. I am using a large bank right now, and I won't mention their name, but they are a NIGHTMARE. Leaning towards switch to BoA or Wells Fargo, but wanted to see if anyone had experience with them or possibly a better suggestion?

Ex (quick money movement, low fees, great service and communication, ability to be reached, online wires) 

I should also add that I don't need them to have great loan terms or RE products. I am simply looking for ease of use in transactional purposes like checking, wires, and personal distributions.

Thanks so much!

Post: How do you guys manage cashflow from a banking perspective?

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

There's all these formulas for calculating expenses and backing in to cashflow, right? How do you guys manage this operationally? 

In reality, rent will hit your bank account, but it doesn't separate itself into specific categories. Do you shuffle your estimated capex and opex to a separate savings account? Or do you just let it all sit in one checking account, and then only take a small portion of it as a distribution if you want cashflow?

Post: Rehab Only loans for BRRRR

Steven BarrPosted
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 56

I am looking to use conventional 20% down financing to purchase a home. Is it possible/are there places to allow you to take out loans for just the rehab portion of the deal?