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All Forum Posts by: Steve Adler

Steve Adler has started 7 posts and replied 26 times.

Originally posted by @Paul Falbo:

@Caroline Gerardo great advice! I like the way you think. I was going to add to seatch county records for his deals to find the companies he uses. ie title company, lawyer and or property manager.

 Would the objective of that be to get them to give me his personal number?

Originally posted by @Caroline Gerardo:

Do over. When I my kids had a nightmare I told them in envision the fix, step by baby step to make it happy, then do it. 

Time to research who he used for title, type of entity, who is his CPA, look for a soft introduction. What church does he attend and what cultural parallels can you find? What do you have to offer besides bugging him to go to a dinner that he doesn't need? Did the city or county fine him- maybe you can fix that? Ask for his advice on fixing a problem you have? (works for a woman but I can't see your face, can you make a sweet face?)  

The movie Grumpy Old Men comes to mind where he yells "you kids get off my lawn" (they aren't on the lawn). 

ALWAYS RESIST stereotypes. Find common ground. Offer to help him for free, "I'll mow the lawn at 12 Pine Street if you will chat with me for fifteen minutes."  Show up with the tools that matches the offer: "I can pick up the trash at x address (knowing he has a problem there) and you have a broom and black garbage bags in hand. Or do you have a higher skill to offer??? 

Thank you, makes sense. I’m a CPA and that was going to be one of my ways “in” when I finally contacted him. The challenge is actually getting in touch with him haha!

Originally posted by @Caroline Gerardo:

What do you know about him personally? What do you have to offer in exchange for his time? Is he healthy? Does he have family besides the wife? Why didn't you make friends with the wife who probably owns 1/2?  The leasing office is not going to help you, they would love to sell his properties themselves, they are your competition. Calling him a "slum lord" makes me feel it is your attitude that is the obstacle and he's getting that vibe.

Also, I did not know that I was competing against the leasing office! Thanks for informing me of that. The notes that have been left for him have been along the lines of “I would love to talk to you about x property, and see if you may be interested in selling it. If not, I would still love to set up a lunch and talk about real estate and how you’ve become so successful”


my notes and action to get in touch with him have been nothing but respectful/professional. The “slum lord” was strictly for BP members to get an idea of what the community says about their rentals to help paint that picture. 

Originally posted by @Caroline Gerardo:

What do you know about him personally? What do you have to offer in exchange for his time? Is he healthy? Does he have family besides the wife? Why didn't you make friends with the wife who probably owns 1/2?  The leasing office is not going to help you, they would love to sell his properties themselves, they are your competition. Calling him a "slum lord" makes me feel it is your attitude that is the obstacle and he's getting that vibe.

I wanted to address the last part of your message first! The “slum lord” is what his reputation in our town is for their properties! There leasing agency has 500 + reviews and it is 1.5 out of 5 stars. 

I do not know him personally, and I want to LEARN from him. Which is why I said I’d love to even go to dinner with him and learn how he accumulated all of the properties, because I would love to have as many one day. I in no way was trying to come off as negative towards him, I was just trying to paint a picture of the reputation and properties he has.
for the rest of it, I tried to have a conversation with the wife but she was not home (communicated through a doorbell haha), very nice person but she said that they prefer for people not to come to their house for business… totally understandable! 

I do not know him personally or anything other than he’s an older guy. Since I don’t know anything about him I have no idea how to add value to him yet, other than being able to buy the properties he no longer wants! Would love to have a conversation with him and see how I could add value though. In order to acquire all those properties you have to know a thing or two and I would love to learn from him.

Hey BP Community quick question. I have a person in my community who is known as a “slum lord”. His company and apartment complexes have TERRIBLE reviews. He has over a couple hundred properties in my town, and a lot of them need work. On my prospect list I have about 25 properties BEFORE I stopped writing the rest down because I just said I gotta figure out a way to get in contact with him. 

I’ve called his leasing office almost twice a week and left notes for the past 4 months, and I’ve even went to his house (he was not home but his wife said that she would tell him I stopped by). I normally would of stopped trying to reach out but his office keeps saying he is looking to sell? Could he just tell them that as a generic response? He has a ton of properties that are boarded up/vacant and some complexes that are getting run down. 

In a worst case scenario I’d love to even take him to lunch and learn how he accumulated all of the properties. Should I just stop trying to get in touch with him?

Originally posted by @Caleb Brown:

My fav is STR. Why have a 2 year time frame? Also 5k gross or after expenses? Setting a random time limit will help but there needs to be a specific why. You need to define your criteria/plan. From there you can define exactly how many doors you need for 5K in cashflow. Then put the plan into action.

5k net, 2 years because I like to set short term and long term goals, and like to build action items to get me there! It’s definitely not random, it’s a time frame that I think I could realistically get to my cash flow goal!

Hey everyone I posted this in the wrong section so I’m reposting it on this forum! I have 200k to invest and a monthly cash flow goal of 5k a month. I have one property that cash flows 250 a month.

What route would you go to get to $5k monthly in 2 years? BRRRR SFH? MFH? If it were a bigger deal I would be able to have access to more funds, but would like to create a plan with my 200k first. I look forward to hearing from everyone!

Post: 200k to invest $5k cash flow goal

Steve AdlerPosted
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Originally posted by @Brendan Miller:

@Steve Adler gotcha, I could have read your 2nd sentence better. I think it's definitely doable but will take a lot of hustle to do it. I would work backwards like I did in my previous response; at 3 years you need a property that produces $60K net profit (after expenses + debt service). If you applied the BRRRR strategy within years 0-3 and focused on short flips to quickly increase your money, you'd have a sizeable downpayment at year 3 to leverage a property big enough to generate those returns. It really depends how much time you have available within years 0-3 to focus towards real estate.

Makes perfect sense! Thank you again for your response. I'm fortunate enough to where I will be able to dedicate 90% of my time to this! I am working on a BRRRR right now and have another one getting lined up, so I plan on going all in and making this happen!

Post: 200k to invest $5k cash flow goal

Steve AdlerPosted
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Originally posted by @Brendan Miller:

@Steve Adler it'll be tough to accomplish with a fully leveraged property. You'd need to get a discounted property offmarket, likely with some seller financing to make those types of numbers. $5K a month in pure cashflow (after all expenses). For $60K annual cash flow (NOI), you'd need a $1M property at 6% CAP to achieve that, before factoring in debt service which will likely eat up a good chunk of that $60K. Is 5k a month your immediate goal with the 200K investment, or is 5K a month your long term goal to be financially free (at some point in the future)?

thank you for your reply! I could have worded it better. This is my 2-3 year goal. Do not necessarily care to make it a one transaction = 5k a month. I was just saying that I have 200k, and pretty much trying to build a plan to get me to $5k a month in the next 2-3 years. 

Post: 200k to invest $5k cash flow goal

Steve AdlerPosted
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Hey everyone! I have 200k to invest and a monthly cash flow goal of 5k a month. I have one property that cash flows 250 a month. 

What route would you go to get to $5k monthly in 2 years? BRRRR SFH? MFH? If it were a bigger deal I would be able to have access to more funds, but would like to create a plan with my 200k first. I look forward to hearing from everyone!