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All Forum Posts by: Stephen E Drew

Stephen E Drew has started 10 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Marc Maitre:
Quote from @Stephen E Drew:

Hello Everyone. I was hoping to talk to any of you amazing seasoned investors about wholesaling. I have been debating on buying a wholesale course online with Brent Daniels who seems to have a great thing going on in his community. I realized that I should reach out to everyone here in hopes for some help before I spend $6,800 on his course/community. 

I would love to begin wholesaling properties in my area. I have 10,000% ambition and drive to make all of the calls and to do all of the work. I unfortunately am lacking knowledge and I was hoping for a little bit of help there. 

1) What is the best place to pull a list from, and then I realize that skip-tracing might be very helpful to pull phone numbers from there ?

1.a) I have been driving for dollars. I will always write down a property that looks in distress and look it up when I get home. I then try to find the owner online and call them 

2) I have already made some cold calls with no success, but I am worried about being successful without understanding the process of what to do after I secure a purchase agreement

3) I feel like.. there is a contract out there for Wholesaling that would benefit me to have. A contract that has all parties needs in order, and one that protects me if I am not able to find an end buyer. 

To anyone who reads this. Please understand that I am COMPLETELY committed to making this my full time occupation..coupled with long term investments (I have one at the moment). I would love and respect any feedback from everyone and I wish you all a fantastic start to your weeks.  

 I'll save you all the trouble. Go to FlipwithRick on Youtube, and he has a free wholesale course and all of his content on high-quality, value-packed content. Go binge, watch everything on his channel, and get the book "If you can't wholesale after this, then I've got nothing for you" You don't need to spend that 6k unless you have another 6k+ to go towards marketing and operation. Pull a list from the county you're in or where ever your market is; use Batchleads, https://geopointdata.com/, Listsource. Skiptracing: Batchskiptracing, SkipGenie, REISkip- If you got a budget for it, I would send out mailers to a short list. Figure out the best strategy for you, not every body is going to want to cold call, but I recommend it. Whichever strategy you use, stick to it for six months to get traction.  I hope this helped. 

Thank you Marc! It absolutely did help. I don't have the extra money right now for marketing so I have been just driving for dollars right now. My goal is to close my first deal and then use the profits to purchase Batchleads, lists, and marketing. But I appreciate your input after so many days of my post being on the site. I really appreciate you taking the time to send over some help 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @David Nolan:

@Stephen E Drew Hi Steven and to all those people who are struggling to get started and not knowing what to do. My suggestion is to hire a personal coach. Hire someone to work with you and hold you accountable for your actions. It is not a lack of information that is missing. Many people have posted that all the information you could possibly ever want, and more, is freely available on Youtube and in other places. The problem is the lack of action.

I have met many people over my career that have great intentions and do nothing about them. Dreaming is great while you are sleeping, but what are you actually doing during your waking hours toward realizing your goals? Do you have a detailed plan and have you committed to working on your plan?

Taking action is also the best way to learn new skills. You can watch all the videos you want and attend all the courses you could ever find, but without action, it is all just information. Paralysis by analysis.

Hire a good coach and let them lead you along your journey and watch what happens. If you truly want to change your way of doing things then invest in yourself and hire a coach. I know from experience, both as a coach and as a student the real value a coach can bring and if you think you cannot afford one then I suggest thinking about what it is costing you not to live to your full potential. How many of your sports idols don't have a coach? I would suggest none. Hire a coach and you give yourself a better chance of success.

Hope this helps.


 Hello David! I do love this idea. I wrote this down in my notepad and will look into it.

You are absolutely right about taking action and I have been taking more these days which feels great. I had a conversation with an attorney yesterday who is going to help me on my path and she also is in connection with a great Title Company. So i have been moving forward which is helpful. It is now time to find a property ! 

Post: Albany Market, 2023

Stephen E DrewPosted
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  • Votes 16

Hey Sherez. I am from Albany myself and currently invest in the area. I am no expert on the Albany market trend (yet) so I don't want to point you in the wrong direction. There seems to be a lot of growth recently with companies like Redburn Construction bringing hundreds of apartments to lower Broadway Ave. I saw the trend of our market moving towards that area a few years ago.. and now I would imagine seeing it move further down the same direction towards Watervliet. Would be a great place to pick up some rentals as that area is up-in-coming. 

As for meet ups - Look to the top of the page, Network tab, click on meetups, and type in an Albany zip like 12204. There is one coming up on Tuesday Mar 21 which should be very informative. The website for that meet up is www.Crreia.com

Shoot me a message when you get back in to town and we can link up if you'd like. I am a Wholesaler btw! 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Lydia R.:
Quote from @Nicholas D.:

I'm in the same boat as Stephen Drew.   Lots of strategies and concepts learned, however, putting that into practice in the state I live in is a completely different conversation.   


My advise, the same I gave to the OP, do a wholesale deal dry run. Pick a property for sale on Zillow and go through the motions as if this was a live deal. Run the comps, come up with an offer number based on repair estimates (use the listing photos to assess condition) and ARV. Write up a contract. If you dont know where to find one thats a gap, if you dont know how to fill one out thats another gap. Have a mock negotiation with the seller, what points will you use to justify your offer price? Assume seller agrees to your offer. What investor friendly title company will you be sending the contract to? Dont have one? Another gap. Which buyers will you be pushing the deal out to? Dont have any? Another gap! This process will show you exactly where the gaps are so you know what you need to know or what resources you need to collect.The Youtube gurus make it look so easy right? They make you feel like you can go and get started today! Until you do this exercise and realize you have no clue what the actual steps are. Thats whats so helpful about my exercise! It helps you identify the specific gaps in your knowledge so you can focus on learning those steps/gathering that missing information. Hope this helps you!


 Fantastic exercise Lydia. I really do appreciate it and I will do that right now honestly.

I do have a contract, two actually. I haven't yet filled them out so thats a great idea. And I know that I have to find a title company so I plan to call the attorney who helped me close on my 3-unit and ask her if she would like to work with me from here on out AND if she has a title company she would recommend

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Mohammed Rahman:

Hey @Stephen E Drew - I personally have a disdain for any real estate course, because all the information can already be found online if you do a bit of digging. However, I know that different people learn differently and maybe you could get some value from being in the community (e.g. for accountability). 

In terms of pulling lists and other methods... that's the $1B question haha! If everyone knew the secret sauce, we'd all be doing it. What I do know is that different strategies have worked with different people, at different times. I know a wholesaling father & son duo that invest & wholesale around 100 homes a year, they say the same thing: I have no idea what works. Whenever they see some traction or success in a particular vertical, they dump more money into that method. For example, in 2020 it was mailers for them, then in 2021 it was cold calling, then it was mailers again for 6 months, and now they're focusing on SEO (which was a focus back in 2019). 

Everything works. 


 Thank you so much Mohammed. Fantastic information to feed on. I plan to start cold calling like so many others have had success with. Once I gain some capital and confidence, I may venture out. But I have to start somewhere and I figure that calling folks would be a good start 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Ryan Sher:

DO NOT PURCHASE ANY WHOLESALING COURSES FROM ANY SELF-PROCLAIMED GURU.

Use Zach Ginn from Flipwithrick to learn everything you need to know about Real Estate Wholesaling. Not only does he have many YouTube videos, but he also has a FREE course. Yes, FREE. It's called Zach Ginn Wholesaling Mastery


 Ryan. Im already watching their video on creating contracts.... THANK YOU. This is amazing. I appreciate you 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Fernando Quintero:

@Stephen E Drew, I have been involved in RE for a while, but I am now trying to delve into Wholesaling, and I am looking myself to the WI course (Brent's course). After watching too many videos, working here and there with some local wholesalers, and still juggling a 9-5 and family, I want to get directed by someone that has been there and done it from scratch to where I want to be. The idea is to cut down the learning curve to a minimum.

Just wanted to offer my two cents. A "small" investment might help you jump "years" of trial and error. Having a mentor that can meet with you and tell you what your next step should be is invaluable. The tons of free content will not give you that. Having a mentor you can speak with as to assess whether your move is the right one before you get into a lot of potential legal issues is invaluable. No book or videos will give you that, and at the end of the day, I am sure with your fist deal you can end up getting your investment back. That is what I said "small" investment at the beginning of my paragraph.

By the way, I am not associated with WI or Brent. I am actually looking for a mentorship at the moment, and I certainly could be focusing somewhere else. However, I saw the commitment and similar road you are in and wanted to pitch in. 

My best wishes in what you do. God bless you!


 Hey thanks for the response Fernando. I agree with the mentorship idea and I would honestly love to find myself a a mentor to partner with and learn from. I unfortunately dont have the $ to spend on that course right now- I was going to borrow the money which just seems like a poor idea- but It also would give me no choice but to succeed. 

I am going to stick it out and keep grinding at the moment. Going to purchase Batchleads soon and start skiptracing some lists and making calls ! woo woo 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Stephen E Drew, dude watch 100+ wholesale vids on YouTube before dropping $6,800 on a course haha. That money can surely be allocated to a higher use than purchasing a wholesaling course. All of the questions you just asked can be found in a Google search.  I've posted this ad nauseam, however, wholesaling is a full-time sales business. If you already have a full-time w2 that you enjoy, I advise sticking to that. 

I fully agree with you Michael although I have been watching too many videos. I have been in video and research mode for all too long. I want to get cracking and moving and get a deal under my belt. I surely don't plan to quit my job after making a couple wholesales but I definitely plan on making investing in real estate my full-time job within the next 5 years. 

Do you have any contracts in your tool-belt that would help a novice like myself feel more confident during my cold calls? 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:

Have you connected with any wholesalers at your local meetup(s)?


 I have not yet. That's a great idea. 

Post: Wholesale Contracts And Leads

Stephen E DrewPosted
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 16

Hello Everyone. I was hoping to talk to any of you amazing seasoned investors about wholesaling. I have been debating on buying a wholesale course online with Brent Daniels who seems to have a great thing going on in his community. I realized that I should reach out to everyone here in hopes for some help before I spend $6,800 on his course/community. 

I would love to begin wholesaling properties in my area. I have 10,000% ambition and drive to make all of the calls and to do all of the work. I unfortunately am lacking knowledge and I was hoping for a little bit of help there. 

1) What is the best place to pull a list from, and then I realize that skip-tracing might be very helpful to pull phone numbers from there ?

1.a) I have been driving for dollars. I will always write down a property that looks in distress and look it up when I get home. I then try to find the owner online and call them 

2) I have already made some cold calls with no success, but I am worried about being successful without understanding the process of what to do after I secure a purchase agreement

3) I feel like.. there is a contract out there for Wholesaling that would benefit me to have. A contract that has all parties needs in order, and one that protects me if I am not able to find an end buyer. 

To anyone who reads this. Please understand that I am COMPLETELY committed to making this my full time occupation..coupled with long term investments (I have one at the moment). I would love and respect any feedback from everyone and I wish you all a fantastic start to your weeks.