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All Forum Posts by: Stan C.

Stan C. has started 21 posts and replied 96 times.

Originally posted by @Risa Mendel:

Congratulations on your first property! And welcome (virtually) to NC. I'm a proud owner of a (somewhat) similarly situated duplex in Raleigh so here's my two cents on miscellaneous matters.

1) What exactly does "completely rehabbed" mean to you? From your basic description, I can imagine a ton of small things you could do to add value in the tenant's eyes and increase your cash flow, but I won't waste time telling you to do what's already been done.

2) Pros of renting to service members...As others have said I wouldn't expect any more than the usual wear and tear for a 20 or 30-something tenant (probably less). You may be able to minimize your vacancy time if you include more amenities or if you're willing to consider shorter term leases (possibly for a higher price). Looking up the current BAH rates for your area takes a lot of guesswork out of pricing for your market. And once you have tenants, their individual BAH rate is basically guaranteed rent money.

Honestly, my main concern about renting by a military base would be that most 18-30 year old (mostly single) people with little credit/rental history aren't exactly whizzes with personal finance.

That said, my day job is in multifamily leasing & we have our ways of attracting lots of no credit, first-time renters who become model tenants. I can usually get the tenant to apply with a high-credit cosigner by offering a very low security deposit. At my first leasing office, it was $200 deposit with a co-signer vs. $200 + 1 month's rent without. 

3) The main downside = SCRA. Hundreds of pages of federal legislation that protect service members & their dependents from having their property seized while they're deployed, on leave, etc. So it's all but impossible to formally evict a tenant who is deployed, and it could be very difficult - but not impossible - to enforce lease break fees, etc. 


NC is not a very landlord-friendly state, and you definitely don't want to go anywhere NEAR violating that particular law. Or any federal law for that matter. Get an appointment with a local landlord/tenant attorney ASAP to cover your bases. Even if you never rent to a service member, a good legal education will save you from a ton of headaches. Basic FHA, FCRA, accounting/banking requirements, eviction processes, etc.

I assume you own this property in your individual name - if you employ a property manager and they make a big enough mistake, you could get sued personally for the full amount of damages (and ignorance of the law is NOT an excuse here - I've seen that one play out). 

As everyone else has said, good PMs are pretty rare in the wild, and you have a long learning curve ahead of you. So take this time now to read up on how they're supposed to do their job, just in case you need to find a replacement :)

Thank you, Risa. I have not yet purchased it yet. Still thinking. I would likely transfer it to an LLC.

A question to everyone here: is flood insurance a must in this part of the town? According to FEMA it's not in the flood zone.

Also, what is minimum liability coverage do you suggest? Is 300k enough? 100k? 

Originally posted by @Ben H.:

@Edward B., you are correct, insurance is very high in the area.

@Stan C., re CAPEX: I try to carry a $5000 reserve on every door to account for the major issues: roof, HVAC, major appliance, etc. That number can decrease as you spread your risk out across several properties.

As for vacancies, I think you'll be able to get tenants in should you lose one but I would budget two-weeks between occupants for turn-over. I don't know how often you'll be turning over tenants at that property.

Thanks. So I should budget for at least 2 weeks of vacancy per year. What are minimum cleaning and re-painting expenses caused by a tenant turn-over?

But I didn't include CapEx in my spreadsheet... Some investors consider 5-10% percent on repairs to include CapEx, some use that as a separate percentage... What's your take on in?

@Edward B., Apologies, a Marine base. I knew of course, not sure why I wrote "Navy" in one place but Marine in other ones... was tired late night I guess. 

  I wrote "SOME of younger Marines" can be what I described too aggressive. By no means do I consider ALL marines that way. I respect Marines. 

The PM I was recommended is ABA Management. Have you heard of it?

@Ben H. Hm.. Now I'm not so sure about the deal since you said it's lower end of C-Class with higher turn-over. When I put all numbers in the spreadsheet that I have, including 5% for maintenance and 3% for vacancies, I get $340 pre tax monthly cash flow. 

It's a conventional loan with 6% rates. 

Again, the house got a "gut rehab", that's why I put 5% for maintenance instead of standard 10% for now. 

Cash on Cash return for 1st year comes to 15%.    Return on Equity (pre Tax) is 14.93%

Do you think 3% for vacancies is a realistic number in that neighborhood (Onslow Drive, 28540)?

A question to both of you guys, does the cash flow mentioned above look about right/decent for this kind of property?

It's currently managed by a PM as well. 

@Edward B. 

@Ben H.

It's at Onslow Dr, Jacksonville, NC 28540.  It's a completely rehabbed one-story duplex with two 800 sq ft apartments, 2 bed 1 bath each. Both units are currently rented out for $700 each. Does it tell you guys more about the neighborhood and potential tenants? 

I kind a like the idea of lower vacancy rates near a Navy base like this. But I'm hesitant about the idea of young hyper-active over Testosteroned kids (some of younger Marines) as my tenants since I think they may just punch holes in the wall with their fists just for gun or do target practice in bedroom or whatever... Is that a concern in these kind of areas? 


Also, how much does it "typically" cost to prepare an apartment for a new tenant? What is the average cost range in your experience? 

Thanks.

@Henri Meli

@ Jay 

@Jay Helms

I haven't purchased it yet. A NC bank is about to approve my conventional loan application.  According to my calculations the duplex should give me about $300 a month cash flow. My goals are at least $500 a month so that I can retire overseas (where life is cheaper) due to my serious health issues that prevent me from working.  I don't have a plan on how to increase the cash flow to at least $500 yet. 

But my question here is really about the neighborhood. 

Hello all, 

This would be my first investment property and I need to be very careful about not making bad mistakes. I'm an our-of state guy out in NY. 

It's a duplex in Bell Fork / Hawkside area of Jacksonville, NC, 28540.  How is the area? Crime-wise? Vacancy rates? Income? Has anyone had any experience in this part of the town or Jacksonville in general? 

The property would have been managed by a local PM company.

Thanks!

Post: How can I find an honest and moral adviser/mentor?

Stan C.Posted
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:
Originally posted by @Stan C.:
Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:

@Stan C., I think you quoted one of my articles. Just so you know that since then, Rich Uncles went under investigation by the SEC for something regarding how they market their securities. They have stopped answering my questions about anything, so I personally am not satisfied at all with their transparency, and would not personally invest in them.

Also, there are now about 10 or 11 new and different options for nonaccredited investors like yourself, that range from investing in debt to equity, from residential to commercial, etc. So you can diversify to protect your portfolio better. If you'd like any additional information, feel free to ask or PM me.

 I've heard this before but those kind of things apply to all crowdfunding, don't they? Realty Mogul recently had two borrowers going bankrupt and it took a year for investors to get their principals back and they got almost no interest. I don't think I can ultimately find any better investment funds.

20k invested will give me only around $125 a month cash flow when I'll live abroad and $90 while I'm in US and still working... a bit far away from 1k or even $500 I need to survive, and no appreciation. Ugh!!!.....

A rental SF house will also give me around $150 but that number should rise over the years (due to loan payout) and equity will be rising... back to square one...

@Stan, no, it definitely doesn't apply to all crowdfunding platforms. Just like there are good and bad advisors and mentors, and good and bad real estate brokers, there are good and bad crowdfunding platforms. A good platform should be transparent, should have maximum protections for investors,keep you informed of the risks, and also keep you informed if something goes wrong.

Also, it's not true that crowdfunding investments don't offer appreciation. Basically anything you can invest in on your own, you can do through syndication/crowdfunding. So while you might choose to invest in debt, which has no appreciation, or you can also choose to invest in equity which does.


On one hand it sounds to me like you are staying that to tolerate any loss of your money. There is no such thing as an investment that does not have risk. So if that's what you're looking for, you really should put your money in the bank (and even then, there is a small risk that perhaps there might be a run on the bank or it might collapse...but at least your risk is minimized). But what I'm trying to say is that if you cannot tolerate any risk on your investment, you should not be putting into real estate, stock market, or anything else.

However, on the other hand, you seem to be having an issue with the fact that $20,000 invested well not generate $500 a month for you for your living expenses.  If you calculate what your expectations are, you are expecting a 30% return on your money every year. There is no way that you are going to get that kind of return in any asset class whatsoever, without taking tremendous risk. 

 I never said I expect absolutely risk free investment. Actually I was saying that, in my opinion, that investigation of Rich Uncles for some advertisement practices is not enough reasons of staying away from them. Advertising practices is a big crime??. Give me a break. .. That's higher risk toleration on my side right there. BTW, your own article says Rich Uncles are safer than Realty Mogul and Fundrise. 

Post: How can I find an honest and moral adviser/mentor?

Stan C.Posted
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @Ian Ippolito:

@Stan C., I think you quoted one of my articles. Just so you know that since then, Rich Uncles went under investigation by the SEC for something regarding how they market their securities. They have stopped answering my questions about anything, so I personally am not satisfied at all with their transparency, and would not personally invest in them.

Also, there are now about 10 or 11 new and different options for nonaccredited investors like yourself, that range from investing in debt to equity, from residential to commercial, etc. So you can diversify to protect your portfolio better. If you'd like any additional information, feel free to ask or PM me.

 I've heard this before but those kind of things apply to all crowdfunding, don't they? Realty Mogul recently had two borrowers going bankrupt and it took a year for investors to get their principals back and they got almost no interest. I don't think I can ultimately find any better investment funds.

20k invested will give me only around $125 a month cash flow when I'll live abroad and $90 while I'm in US and still working... a bit far away from 1k or even $500 I need to survive, and no appreciation. Ugh!!!.....

A rental SF house will also give me around $150 but that number should rise over the years (due to loan payout) and equity will be rising... back to square one...