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All Forum Posts by: Spencer Cornelia

Spencer Cornelia has started 15 posts and replied 303 times.

** This is part 6 of me documenting my fun and often stressful real estate journey

The nightmare is finally over.

Today I close on my second flip ending what will hopefully be the roughest period of my investing journey. I detail here how my first flip essentially bankrupted me which resulted in this house losing money as well.

It’s easy to blame others for all that went wrong. Making the wrong hire, overlooking the risks, taking on too much debt. But ultimately the responsibility lies in my hands.

I jumped on a seesaw of risk hoping that the momentum would catapult my bank account into six figures only to find out the hard way that flipping houses isn’t as easy as I had predicted.

This house was purchased for $64,000 with an expected rehab of $100k to $120k depending on how much work the dilapidated and neglected house needed.

The midwest is lovely but the houses carry the weight of weather storms nearly a century old leading to more damage than a beginning investor could expect.

The appraisal came in at $225k for my lender meaning our all-in cost would be around 85% of the sales price worst case. That number seems high but the neighborhood was “hot” and houses sold really quickly.

What I cared about most was completing my second deal to gain experience. I actually didn’t care about making any money. I simply wanted to exit two deals to begin gaining credibility in the eyes of hard money lenders. I knew the value of exiting deals as a beginner. Experience carries more weight than a few numbers on an appraisal.

Everything was going smoothly for the first 4 months. We were lined up to have this project complete by August which would still be in the prime time frame for selling this house.

TLDR of my previous post - I ran into troubles with my first flip which was going on at the same time as this project.

I had to pull my contractor from this house to save the day on my first flip. Two months and $20k later, I was out of money and now my contractor for this house was pulled into other projects.

I don’t blame him. I was out of cash and he needed to get paid. He had other projects that he committed to.

Want to play a challenging game? Try to rehab a house 2,000 miles away with no money as a beginning investor.

I basically had to run a pyramid scheme in order to finish this project. I used my tenant income and w2 income to put towards the next phase of rehab. When that portion was complete, I could then receive draw money which allowed me to pay my utilities, taxes, and mortgages. In layman’s terms, I took all of my earned income to continue with the rehab only paying down my debt when someone else paid me (my lender via draw money).

I won’t bore you with the details, but this lasted about 6 months. I ate nothing but rice and black beans and protein shakes. I had to sell my car. I rode the bus 4 hours a day - 2 hours to and from work.

I had to walk to Wal-Mart to get groceries and had a lot of fun walking back. I had holes in my shoes but came to not mind it because I couldn’t afford to buy new ones.

One day I wanted to go watch a movie. I arrived at the next stop with 48 minutes to spare. The next ride would take me straight to the movie complex in 20 minutes. But the next bus wasn’t arriving for 52 minutes. So my only choice was to walk. Just another few miles added on to my weekly odometer.

But I made it just in time. (I wasn’t going to miss Uncut Gems)

But I’m proud. I wasn’t late on one credit card payment. I didn’t miss one mortgage payment. Everyone got paid. I paid all of my utility bills. I had enough food to get by.

And I had to deal with a worldwide pandemic slowing down the economy when it came time to list my house.

But life has a great way of balancing out the good and bad. This house actually didn't even make it to the MLS. A lady who works for my lender had a buyer walk the property before it was complete and made a full list offer.

The payoff at closing will completely wipe out all of my debt that I’ve been holding for 16 months ($50k) and get me back to $0. I’ll never be so happy with $0 in my account.

I was close the other day. I had $0.30. That was fun.

Because of this setback limiting my ability to leave my house, I sunk more time into my YouTube channel where I’m seeing exponential growth and am on pace to make over $6k this month from ad revenue alone.

Life is good. I may have lost all my money and my car, but I can hang my head high knowing that I did it.

I completed two flips 2,000 miles away without any prior experience.

After every dark night, a brighter day appears.

Post: So how's the Las Vegas Market?

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

No one seems to be discussing (arguably) the biggest factor/variable with the real estate market.....how many Californians move to Vegas?

If we continue to see large numbers of California residents moving to Vegas, are we sure that Vegas will see a dip in the real estate market?

What if.....we see an increase of Californians coming to Vegas?

@Steven Silman unable to buy at the moment.  Ran into some troubles with my first two flips and knocked me out financially.  Closing on my second flip tomorrow which will wipe out all debt and allow me to finally buy this house hack in my name.....but I got furloughed a few weeks ago.

Just another setback.  But I won't be able to buy until I go back to work.

As for the house hack itself - I've put a lot of repair money into it so my financials don't appear as strong.  But by summer 2021, I should be looking at about $2k/month cash flow with me living in it.  And upwards of $2,600/month when I decide to move out.

This will be my home run deal for as long as I keep it.

Post: Than Merrill Summit Seminar

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

Since I feel appropriate to add - I make YouTube videos and one of my videos was criticizing his program.  I have their science down to a T so my video contained nothing erroneous about it.  But I heard from his legal team telling me to take it down.

They know what they're doing but don't care.  I'm fascinated to see how these seminar scammers handle any downturn when lending constricts and people aren't as optimistic about something like real estate and willing to drop $20k+ on credit cards from a 2 hour stage upsell.

Post: Than Merrill Summit Seminar

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

@Kirk Bagg this is how all of these seminars operate. They're all an upsell "pitch" fest. Consider it a lesson learned. I highly recommend to everyone to never attend a seminar like this. They're truly all the same. But they know how to sell and bring people in so they will continue. (except for Nudge, LLC - the FTC has already cracked down on them)

Post: What Markets Are the Best & Worst Positioned For Coronavirus?

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

@Russell Brazil I've been asked by one tenant to reduce rent. And I reduced rent for another two great tenants. Want to get ahead of it. My opinion: the rental supply is about to increase as people who just got laid off will all of a sudden not have their mandated "can't live with roommates" first world living mindset removed.

Add in Airbnb market potentially forcing owners to get some rent.

This isn't based on numbers or anything, just my hunch.

@Vincent Gizzi I have a 7 bed house hack and rely on FB Marketplace for my tenants. I have a good amount of experience with this process.

You will receive plenty of leads but it's just an entry point in a large funnel. Just because you receive a lot of requests doesn't mean rent needs to be increased. Me personally, I like charging less, receiving more inquiries, having more demand which allows better screening.

I ask a lot of questions before I even consider them coming to see the house. I make it clear what I'm looking for and what they're looking for matches.

As for screening...I look through all of their pictures and a lot of their posts and use my best judgement on who they are. I have immediate filters for anyone posting gang related activity, any posts that indicate drama, cleanliness with their appearance, etc.

Post: solar panels for electricity

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

@Michinori Kaneko depends where you live. I'm in the process of getting quotes for solar on my house hack. Vgeas may be the best place to get solar due to the sun exposure nearly year round.

I'm looking at a cost of ~$190/mo solar loan to get my electric bill to $0. Not bad when you consider an electric bill of $500 during the summer months is typical and yearly average is ~$250/mo

Post: Sub2 or Finance an investment?

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

@Rebecca Graziano sounds to me like you haven't asked enough questions.  "just want to move to middle of nowhere." Are they going to be buying or renting?  Buying would indicate they may need cash.  Renting may indicate that they care more about (passive) cash flow.

"they are concerned about retirement" - are they retiring upon selling the house? How much money do they need to retire? What do they play to use the HELOC for?

Your strategy will/should revolve around their needs IMO.  If you find out that they just need some cash to move away and would love monthly cash flow, then subject to may be a great idea.  If they are asking for $50k in order to retire, then they may need to sell.

Post: Analyzing my first fourplex

Spencer CorneliaPosted
  • Investor
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 523

@Ahmad D. what about this deal makes you interested in purchasing?  If those are the numbers, you're way better off investing into the stock market or bonds.