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All Forum Posts by: Sol Baum

Sol Baum has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Re: No due diligence-commercial

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I agree-buyer is more right here!

Post: Re: No due diligence-commercial

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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Sol Baum, they are both right. That sort of thing is typically negotiable.

However, there may be a commonly expected way of handling it in your area. So, many people in your area may not realize its negotiable and just assume its always handled a certain way.

How about a sales contract with contingencies but with a limit where the buyer can only terminate the contract if their find material defects exceeding a certain dollar amount. So, that the seller knows they won't be nickle and dimed.

A no contingency sale would be more common in a severely distressed non-functional property where there will be so many material defects that the buyer could not feasibly negotiate until they evaluate them. 


 Thanks for your advice. Limiting defects up to a certain dollar amount may be a happy medium here...   But it sounds like your agreeing a no-contingency sale is more unrealistic here.  I don't think people use binders in commercial real estate, but maybe that can be used before going to contract? (if the buyer wants a more solid commitment)

Post: Re: No due diligence-commercial

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Question: I'm an agent trying to deal with an owner on a small commercial prop says once a buyer signs LOI they can get any relevant leases do their due diligence as well as do their inspection before going to contract. Once its in contract there are no contingencies. This is how they handle all their deals. Buyer is saying heck no- Ill only spend money to do inspection and due diligence if the seller signs the contract of sale. And this is how he handles all his deals.. Whos right? And if their both right or wrong-how to handle this situation?

TIA

Post: Re: Brokers client list

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noted and appreciate your answer

Post: Re: Brokers client list

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Quote from @Abel Curiel:
Quote from @Sol Baum:
Quote from @Abel Curiel:

Hello @Sol Baum,

Does the principal broker have a signed (and current) agreement with this party? i.e. single proper Buyer agreement, exclusive buyer agreement, etc.

Does the principal broker her a signed agency disclosure with this party?

Do you have a disclosure or buyer agreement signed with this buyer?

Was there a referral agreement signed at any point for this party?

Lastly, what is on your ICA? Is there any team/commission agreement that you've signed with your broker to outline what the splits are in a situation like this?

If there is no agreement signed and this person is just someone listed from the broker's database, I do not believe it is acceptable for the broker to collect a split in addition to the house split.

If you are to consider negotiating this additional split, there is a lot to take into account here... what is the % of business that you generate on your own vs. how much your broker contributes? How much do you value the broker relationship? How will 5, 10, 25, 50% on a deal affect the business relationship?


 Abel, Thanks for your answer-these are really great points! And how far back in time would you consider someone a client?   Also why if someone had signed an agreement as a client does it make it that the principal broker "owns" this client in that if you sell the guy a building, it is his...  Not sure I understand the logistics...  Thanks

Has the client mentioned any agreements - past or present, written or verbal - between them and the principal broker?

Client agreements have expiration dates and oftentimes include clauses that entitle agents to commission several months after the expiration of the buyer agreement. In the commercial space, different rules may apply.

Other than this, you'd have to discuss the logistics with your broker. What I can say is that in any business, it can take years or decades to create and nurture a client relationship. Your broker may feel entitled to an additional split based on past dealings or conversations with this client.


 Thank you.. Enlightening

Post: Re: Brokers client list

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Quote from @Abel Curiel:

Hello @Sol Baum,

Does the principal broker have a signed (and current) agreement with this party? i.e. single proper Buyer agreement, exclusive buyer agreement, etc.

Does the principal broker her a signed agency disclosure with this party?

Do you have a disclosure or buyer agreement signed with this buyer?

Was there a referral agreement signed at any point for this party?

Lastly, what is on your ICA? Is there any team/commission agreement that you've signed with your broker to outline what the splits are in a situation like this?

If there is no agreement signed and this person is just someone listed from the broker's database, I do not believe it is acceptable for the broker to collect a split in addition to the house split.

If you are to consider negotiating this additional split, there is a lot to take into account here... what is the % of business that you generate on your own vs. how much your broker contributes? How much do you value the broker relationship? How will 5, 10, 25, 50% on a deal affect the business relationship?


 Abel, Thanks for your answer-these are really great points! And how far back in time would you consider someone a client?   Also why if someone had signed an agreement as a client does it make it that the principal broker "owns" this client in that if you sell the guy a building, it is his...  Not sure I understand the logistics...  Thanks

Post: Re: Brokers client list

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Hi all,

I need advice about whats fair when making a deal with a party who's on your principal brokers client list already. As per verbal agreement they consider that their client and collect half of your split( in addition to the house split)...What is reasonable to be considered someones client? Obviously anything can be negotiated or it depends on what you agreed upon, but what do peers in the industry consider acceptable for this and whats considered unreasonable...  Maybe someone can shed light on agreements such as this.

TIA