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All Forum Posts by: Audley Humes

Audley Humes has started 6 posts and replied 91 times.

Post: Wells Fargo Short Sale Addendum

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by otrora:
Even if they do...

The issue is transfer of title.

Depending on who the buyer is (i.e. no FHA), you could lease the property to your buyer for 30 days or until closing date, with a contract separate from the selling contract you have with them.

Close on the 31st day, as agreed.

This should work on many instances (unless selling to a rehabber that must start work on the property immediately).


Unless I'm mistaken, the issue in this thread is Wells Fargo issuing the 30 day no flip clause in their approval letter, thus creating the "title transfer" issue. If that verbiage is not including in the approval letter then that is no longer an issue, as far as Wells Fargo is concerned. I believe Alex is just trying to do a normal A-B-C flip. Now, if the end Buyer's lender has any seasoning requirements that's a different issue in itself.

Post: Wells Fargo Short Sale Addendum

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

That's great news! Maybe WF is changing thier policies. The last two approvals we've gotten had no 30 day filp clause!

Post: Playing the games with BOA

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by Mark Yuschak:
I'm working on a short with BOA via equator. When I enter in the bid amount, it instantly tells me that the offer is to low compared to their perceived value. I have no clue where they get their values, but regardless, how do I work around this? I'm assuming I can enter a higher value, then later indicate that I can't go that much? What have others done?



Personally, that's what I would do. If you have a strong case to validate your offer, and can document it you should be able to get a lower offfer than whatever their so called perceived value is. They could be basing their offer off the last BPO that was done. When you get a new Interntor BPO ordered, just make sure you can prove your case.

Post: Getting started with equator

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by Mark Yuschak:
I'm working with a client who has BOA as his note holder. I tried uploading everything to equator, but of course equator tells me that it can't find the loan number. I called the 800 number and they said they needed the 3rd party authorization in order to get started. Fine, no problem. Sent it in. Three days later I called back and they acknowledged receipt of it, but said I can't use equator until my client initiates the process through bankofamerica.com/shortsale. My client couldn't login to that site so he called the 800 number and got bounced around and ended up with no more information than what he had when he started.

Does anyone know what the purpose is of the bankofamerica.com/shortsale site? It seems stupid and very redundant.

Your client is going to have to call them - 1-866-880-1232 and say he/she wants to initate the Short Sale process. The agent on the phone is going to verify their speaking to the homeowner, and the rep will setup the account with your clients email address and a temp password. The rep has to create the account and login information will be sent to your clients email.

Post: ShortSale with married couple on dead but one spouse is deceased

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

I'm in Florida and have a similar situation. Pretty much, in our situation, we will just need to provide documents that prove the wife is deceased to our title company. At this point the lender, Aurora, has not said anything and they are aware that the wife is deceased

Post: Has a homeowner ever asked you this question concerning a short sale?

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

IMO, this seems to be somewhat of a grey area. The seller is still benefiting from the sale of the transaction either directly or indirectly.

I think an investor would possibly be better off if they were able to assist the homeonwer, with moving expenses prior to the approval letter.

If an Investor really feels there will be a deal (if the BPO comes in favorably) and he/she is going to make money, I don't see anything wrong with paying for moving expensive out of their on personal account.

Again, that's just a thought. I would definitely seek the advice from a attorney on that one.

Post: Wells Fargo Short Sale Addendum

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

We've had Well's issue a 30 day no flip in our approval letter. Did the contract not state up front your intentions where to re-sell the property for a profit?

In the past week, WF has rejected two of our Option Contracts. We've since created a Standard P&S Agreement with appropriate addedums/disclosures.

Good luck!

Post: Getting around B of A's 30 day hold

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

Back to back closings must usually occur at the same title company, don't know if that scenerio will work. Last B of A approval was several months back, but I've not heard of them releasing the 30 day hold.

If Back of America removes that, it'll be as big as FHA removing 90 seasoning requirement! (although we still prefer cash or 20% down)

Post: Why should a seller short sale?

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39

When I speak to homeowners about a Short Sale vs. a Foreclosure I tell them upfront that their credit will take a hit, depending on how the lender reports. I've seen cases when the homeowners credit is impacted just as if they had a foreclosure and sometimes not as bad.

I tell the homeowner that the main difference will depend on how soon they are looking to get a new mortgage with a reasonable interest rate. As soon as 24 months with a Short Sale, and 5-7 years with a foreclousre.

I comepletely agree with Mike. I'm in Florida, and even though this this is a deficiency state, we rarely have lenders go after our clients. Even if a lender is giving us a hard time, we'll raise our offer in order to get them to waive it.

In my experience 2nd lien-holders, mostly those with lardge HELOC's are more likely to pursue the home homeowner for a promissory note, due to the fact they are taking out 10's of thusands of dollars and never receive a payment. Even in those situation if we can't get it waived, we'll negotiate the debt down substanially.

Just my 2 cents.

Post: Do I need a license to negotiate short sales in Florida?

Audley HumesPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by crosswind_:
You COULD be possible breaking a law. If you intend on negotiating Short Sales in Florida, you need to have a talk with an Attorney that specializes in Real Estate Law. Tell the attorney everything you "want" to do and how you plan on doing it. The attorney will be the ONLY person that can tell you if you are doing anything illegal.

Hope this helps, even though it is not the answer you were looking for.



Guess I didn't state, I'm not an Attorney. I've gone over this with my Attorney in depth. There are several grey areas in Florida, but I would not even test them.

p.s. An Attorney could also negotiate third party debt, but as crosswind stated. I would definitely seek legal counsel.