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All Forum Posts by: Shelon Hutchinson

Shelon Hutchinson has started 8 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Thoughts on Using a HELOC to get your first deal?

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

@Nate Stitchell

Always begin with the end in mind but the journey is also important. Your HELOC in most cases is going to be cheaper money than a hard money loan. So holding costs will be significantly less. I say go for it. It would be great if when you refi, you can pay off you balance.

-Hutch

Post: Passive investor for real estate Syndication

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

🤫Don’t tell anyone!🤭

Be quite as loud as possible.

Don’t tell anyone that 📈you they can invest in real estate with their retirement fund.

Be very quiet 🤫when you 😃yelled from the top of the mountain that you don’t need millions of dollars to invest in real estate.

In fact you don’t need to have all this money in your checking account today.

See, it’s a common misconception that you need today money (money in the checking account) to invest in real estate.

Heath G. Jones, PhD have been spreading the word that you can invest in real estate with later money (SDIRA, eQRP, 401K, TSP)🤭.

Using later money to invest in real estate syndication can have significant benefits like cash flow and Capitol reservation.

It can also provide you with opportunities to leverage taxes incentives like Bonus depreciation.

There are some opportunities that are available right now for those who have been committed to working in corporate America and contributing to the 401(k). Some of these benefits will expire soon.

Please ensure you’re communicating with your CPA and your accountants to understand the different implication of moving capital from one vehicle to another to ensure that the decision aligns with your investment strategy.

🔥🔥How are you using your retirement fund to buy apartments?🔥🔥

Post: Target Rental Profit From Each Apt Unit?

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

@Charles Smith read the Michael Blank book below that will give you a lot of pointers on the lingo to include a few scripts.

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint To Quitting Your Job With Real Estate - Even Without Experience Or Cash https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD5SDZF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pAixEbT7XV4ZD

Also check out Joe Fairless book.

Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0997454326/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7DixEbQDCTKT5

Post: My FICO is fair. Do I wait or invest now?

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

John,

  You are in a great place man. No mortgage, no car payment and no credit card payment.  You are a cash flow King. (Sorry the cash flow king name is already taken so you can't use it). 

Using a home equity line of credit is a great idea to do the BRRR strategy. I recently interview another syndicator on my podcast and his favorite real estate quote was "do not wait to buy real estate buy real estate and wait".

But in your case John, it's all about what problem you're trying to self with real estate. I would love to connect with you to hear a little more about your investment strategy.  

Post: Target Rental Profit From Each Apt Unit?

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

Dele,

This is a very wacky way of analyzing multi family properties. Just kidding man. 

I typically do not underwrite it with a focus on income per unit. My focus is, am I able to cover all my expenses, meet my debt service coverage ratio (DSCR), and provide my investors with their expected returns off a minimum of 8% cash on cash return. Great place to start if you are underwriting a lot of multi family properties is to purchase the Michael Blank SDA. It will be the best $130 you spent in 2020.

Post: Best State for rental income?

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

Hello Steve,

 I am down in Pensacola Florida where there are still affordable properties.  My focus is multifamily.    My investment properties are in SC and Escondido CA.  I do not own any investment property in FL at the time but I will be walking a 50 unit complex in the morning.  If this is an area that you are interested in, let me know.

Post: Owner Occupied Rent by the Room Property Management

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

Daniel 

It will come down to cash flow. How much would it cost to manage the property in regards to dollar amount for paying a property manager and also your time and trying to finding a proper tenants have to work in 40-80 hours per week.

 I had a friend that purchased a triplex and he lived in one of the units. He hired a professional property manager anyway.  I believe it improves the comfortability of the tenants who lives there.

But it has to make Common Sense, Dollars Sense and Business Sense.  

Post: Financing a Syndication Deal

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

Hello Michael,

  Congratulation on finding a 30 units. Also congratulation and having somebody that know like and trust you and is willing to partner with you in the acquisition.  You have a couple options here and it's all about how you and your partner want to structure this deal. But typically the way I structure my deal is we will start at a 70/30 equity split and will work up to 80/20 or until we satisfy our investors expected returns.  Being that your partner will be putting up the down payment and signing on the loan he or she will get the greater end of the equity.  

To answer your question directly one by one here we go:

However, if I create an LLC and place the property underneath it will both owners have to apply for the mortgage loan? 

           It seems like you will be taking the lead on this acquisition so your responsibility will be a lot. It will be your responsibility to find a loan that the property will qualify for and provide your loan with the necessary paperwork, ie rent roll; T-3 and T-12.  Typically in the multi family space the income of the property will qualify the property for the loan amongst a few other factors.  Not sure what area you're located in but a 30 units if it's valued over $1.25 million you might be able to get a non-recourse, Agency Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan.  If the property is able to qualify for a 80% leverage. Your partner would need to satisfy the mortgage brokers  liquidity requirements, have the net worth equivalent to the amount of the loan and someone on your team will need to provide information that they have 24 months of experience with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans and have managed properties of equal or greater size.  If your partner is able to satisfy all the lenders requirements you do not have to sign on the lawn. If your partner cannot satisfy all the lenders requirements and you're not able to you can always find another partner to bridge the gap.

My credit is not that good so how can I receive a % of the property without have to go through the mortgage process on my end?

 No need to worry Michael. You are providing your partner with an opportunity to make their money work for them.  This 30 units will keep you busy up to closing and beyond you'll be earning your money but just for clarity there are a few ways you earn an income as an apartments syndicator:      1. You earn an acquisition fee which is usually 1 to 3% of the purchase price; 2. You get a percentage of the income based on your equity split: 3.  You earn an asset management fee for managing the business plan; and 4.  You also will get your equity split at disposition of the property. 

My responsibility will hire the contractors, oversee the property manager, as well as stabilize via rent increase.

That's right, in addition to what you listed, as the asset manager you will be implementing the business plan to ensure that the property perform as it was underwritten; this will require you to conduct a weekly call or visit with the property manager; (this one is very important as you do not want to go more than a week without talking to your property manager any longer it could be a really bad day and you might not be able to provide your investor with the returns that they expected. You can fix a lot within one week but waiting a month to speak to property manager usually don't end well); if your partner is not taking an active role you'll be required to provide him or her with a monthly updates of the performance of the property; and also send out the distribution.

Any advice how I should structure this deal as well? How much stake should I get of the asset as well as after the refinancing?

Micheal this question can only be answered by the relationship that you have with your investors. It sounds like it's a single investor so this one should be easy. Talk to your lawyer preferably a real estate/syndication/SEC lawyer. If you have a lawyer that is all three it would just be a one stop shop. They will be able to help you to negotiate contracts, create the private placement memorandum (PPM), create an LLC amongst over things.

Post: Looking to Network With Other Investors

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

Hollo J Val,

  Hutch The Marine Investor is here.   I would love to assist but I am not investing in your market.  

Post: Help me analyze this deal. 1 SFR & 3 Duplex. Will add 6-8 RV pads

Shelon HutchinsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 42

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