Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Shawn Lowery

Shawn Lowery has started 4 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Susan K.:

Just curious if your profit takes in account what you have to pay to Uncle Sam or are you doing 1031 exchange?

 The profit shown is pre-tax, given my tax bracket and my investor's could be different, just makes it easier to compare projects apples-to-apples.  Tax is an important consideration though, so a $15k profit in reality is closer to $10-11k.  No 1031 permitted on flip proceeds given the original intent was to resale in <12 months.

Post: Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Scott W.:

so did you have a partner (50/50) on this or not? confused by the wording. looks like he was going to be but then funded the rehab, so HML and you kept 100% of the profits?

 Yes, my private money partner put up ~$160k and received $15k of the ~$28k profit, I kept the balance.  It was a 50/50 partnership per the operating agreement, I gave him a bit more than half just as a thank you.  This was not hard money, just a straight equity split

Post: Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44
Originally posted by @Amy Zemser:

If you're the listing agent can you just buy the property? Are there rules around this? Forgive my stupid question; I'm new at this. 

 It's a great question, and I always offer options with full transparency.  With this client, I indicated she'd likely fetch a higher price on the open market, and gave her a higher price to list it traditionally.  She elected the subject-to, which ultimately turned into a straight cash purchase.  She had already abandoned the property, stopped making mortgage payments etc...and her motivation was through the roof.  Given I'm licensed, I lay out the options in writing and have her choose so I can trace my steps

Post: Flip Success! Detailed summary and photos

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

Flip Summary - Royersford, PA

Deal Summary

I came across this opportunity as a straight referral to list the seller’s home traditionally as a licensed agent. Upon our initial conversation, her extreme level of motivation became readily apparent. The seller had already abandoned the property due to concern over mold (that was not actually there). I laid out multiple options, from a traditional listing to a cash purchase to subject-to. We ultimately agreed that me purchasing the property subject-to the existing mortgage was the preferred route.

I had never done a sub-2 before and was determined to figure it out. I connected with various investor friends across the country, received excellent advice along with the form templates and contract addenda I needed to confidently take this deal down, and serve the seller properly.

Everything was going smoothly until a week before settlement, when my money partner, who I was going to split the profit with 50/50 upon outsale, decided against the subject-to approach. He was not comfortable with the concept and his attorney reinforced that. I pulled the money partner in to fund the rehab. Had I done it myself I could have pursued the sub-2 route, however, my goal was to have multiple projects ongoing at once and leveraging OPM was still at the heart of my strategy.

Needless to say, we shifted course and ended up paying cash for the property. Seller still received the net proceeds that were expected, no problem there.

The rehab itself was cosmetic overall, except for the basement that needed a gut. The previous owner had already rehabbed the kitchen, bathroom and flooring to give me a great head start. My scope of work was to add new HVAC, remove the existing electric baseboard, open and refinish the basement, add new carpeting upstairs, patch/paint the exterior and interior and add new windows. Timeframe was 4 months front to back, with a quick 30-45 day rehab. Or so I thought.

In reality, I would show up to an empty house more often than not. I had used this contractor before with the same issues. The crew did a decent job, however, the reliability was subpar. After some poking and prodding, the crew wrapped things up after about 75 days.

Projections

Purchase Price: $120,000

Closing Costs In: $5,984

Rehab/Holding: $37,110 (includes 10% contingency)

ARV: $200,000

Closing Costs Out: $9,048

Profit: $28,268

Time: 120 days

Investor Cash-on-Cash ROI: 8.7% (28.9% annualized)

Actuals

Purchase Price: $208,000

Closing Costs In: $5,945

Rehab/Holding: $43,961

Sold Price: $208,000

Closing Costs Out: $8,648

Profit: $28,555

Time: 180 days

Investor Cash-on-Cash ROI: 9.4% (20.0% annualized)

Structure

Pulled in a private money partner to fund $160k purchae + rehab, I would come out of pocket for any overage. Created LLC and operating agreement to split net profit 50/50 (I voluntarily gave partner a bit more to get them to an even $15k distribution as a thank you).

Details (Nitty Gritty!)

For those of you that love full transparent details here are all the numbers, original projections and actuals on the back end. The first chart shows what each partner invested and their actual returns. The second chart is a detailed budget analysis showing projected expenses vs actual. All said and done, I was short $1,171 off my original projections. I’ll take it!

Lessons Learned

Lesson 1: Be specific with the rehab objectives each and every week. Don’t assume your contractor is showing up when you expect them to. Speak to them on Monday, lay out the weekly plan, hold them accountable end of week to that plan. Keep the pressure on.

Lesson 2: Use a plumber for even the most basic plumbing hookups. A leaking toilet not only sent my water bill through the roof, but the contractor had not tightened the toilet properly, causing it to leak through the floor into the covered porch below. Thankfully it was an exterior space, had it been the kitchen on the other side of the wall the cleanup would have been more extensive. Still, that was nearly $1,000 down the drain in avoidable water and restoration charges. The water company gave me a slight leak adjustment, enough to enjoy a meal at Wendy’s.

Lesson 3: Instruct your contractor to request permission for changes and the associated cost before the work is completed. By not having appropriate oversight weekly with the contractor, his crew took it upon themselves to perform work not part of the original scope. While I certainly want a proactive contractor on my team, their approach to keep inventory of all extra work performed and ding me on the back end creates conflict and eats into profit. Having to negotiate down from a surprise $8k bill on the back end can easily be avoided with proper expectations and oversight.

Lesson 4: Ask the neighbors to keep an eye on the house. Be respectful. Get them on your side. I did not do a great job with this on this project. Once rehab was complete and house was under contractor, it snowed and I forgot all about snow removal. The kind neighbors decided to thank me by piling all snow into about a 12’ pile on my front sidewalk. Needless to say, the township wanted that removed. I guess next time I should remember to shovel the sidewalk.


BEFORE & AFTER

ON TO THE NEXT!

Post: Multifamily BRRR strategy that created 4.5m of value in 12 months

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

Thank you for the detail and congratulations on a fantastic turnaround.  

When you take over a building with a value add approach, how do you underwrite vacancy into your pro forma?  Do you assume X% of occupancy dip during rehab years 1-2 that then levels off by year 3?  

What have you learned firsthand in these projects to expect with the existing tenant base and their response to the improvements?

Post: Joint Venture How to set one up and whether or not to 50/50 split

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

50/50 split with whom?  A private lender?  The answer varies.  If you've funded the deal and some rehab and just need some additional capital to get to the finish line, no way I'd recommend 50/50 equity split.  Give a smaller split of profit or keep it a debt investment only, pay interest on the loan and keep the full net profit.

Post: Syndication, what is the #1 question holding back investors?

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

In addition to what was stated, with the caveat that these responses typically came from less seasoned (yet still accredited) investors with limited real estate exposure:

1) They ultimately wanted more control in the decision making process (couldn't accept the LP role)

2) Cash flow wasn't substantial enough (too short term of a focus)

3) Fear

Pain point for me is locating assets with adequate returns for syndication in my regional vicinity (Philly).   Opportunity exists between 5-35 units but larger assets (what I am targeting) are constrained by compressed cap rates.

Post: $135K Fix and Flip Profit In Seattle WA! Success or Not?

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

Fantastic write-up.  Appreciate the full transparency.  Glad you came out ahead.  When does it make sense to assemble your own in-house crew to better manage costs?

Post: $50K Flip Property Success

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

Nicely done!  Interior looks great.  On to the next!

Post: Help with starting out in Apartment Syndication.

Shawn LoweryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenixville, PA
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 44

Soak up all the knowledge guys like @Michael Blank and @Gino Barbaro have to offer on their websites and especially their podcasts (Apartment Building Investing and Wheelbarrow Profits).  There are others of course.  If you resonate with a guest on their show be proactive and make the connection, offer value, see where it leads.  They might not invest in your area but it's a small world and they may know someone local for you. Persistence will pay off.