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All Forum Posts by: Sean O'Brien

Sean O'Brien has started 2 posts and replied 13 times.

I run a STR property management business and i'm trying to help a client get out of a Vacasa contract, but they are trying to tack on some crazy fees to let her out of the agreement.


 A client i'm trying to transition to my management company is looking to get out of her Vacasa contract, but they are being extremely difficult. One item on a point of contention is that they did a terrible job of setting pricing and allowed a guest to book for $800 on a weekend that should be ~ $2500. 

The guest booked via VRBO which has no financial penalties for the host to cancel. Vacasa is now saying that in order for her to cancel the reservation she might need to pay change fees for the guest to rebook. 

Does anyone have any advice on how to help guide the host out of this crummy situation Vacasa put them in?

If you are going to outsource management, nickle and diming on property management isn't the call. It's much more important to make sure the manager knows what they are doing instead of saving 2-3% here or there. 

Your putting your whole investment in their hands, so this is something you want to make sure you have the right partner for. 

I've been using guesty for hosts and it is decent, but I'm going to switch to hostaway due to the wider breadth of integrations and i like the look and feel of their direct bookings sites. 

Quote from @Ke Nan Wang:

I'm also using Guesty for Host right now and it do have issues with both VRBO and Booking.com. Airbnb is pretty good so far and 90% of my bookings come from Airbnb.  Feel like I'm using Guesty just to manage Airbnb. I think the best alternative out there is Hostaway but will need inputs from other members in this forum and see how is Hostaway working out. 

I think the reason I'm using Guesty is because it can be integrated with pricelab. 

My issue with VRBO is that ever since I switched to Guesty, I have zero bookings from VRBO. Before the switch, I had about 10% of my bookings from VRBO. Not sure what's wrong. 

My biggest problem is with Booking.com. It's not very clear how the price is calculated. Even I have cleaning fee setup in Guesty, when I sync Guesty with Booking.com, Guesty zero out my cleaning fee. I only found out when one booking came in for one night that's lower than my cleaning fee. WTF! Gotta eat that mistake. Also when I synced Guesty with booking.com, all the old bookings were only marked as BLOCKED on the Guesty Calendar. So if a guest cancels the booking, you have to manually reopen the calendar. This doesn't happen to bookings made after the Guesty integration. It cost us 4 nights of booking. Also Booking.com somehow doesn't accept credit card anymore after the integration and right now I just found out a guest is checking in on Wednesday and he's paying cash. 

I have heard Guesty for Pro is much better but also more expensive. I'm considering as we continue to expand our STR portfolio and try out Guesty for Pro and see if it's better.


 You can adjust prices on booking.com so that they are higher to make up for the larger commission fees. 

Additionally, for anyone new on booking.com be very careful when you are first setting up your property. You need to enable payments online, the default setting is that people can check into your property without having to pay. 

You can get some really sketchy guests there if you aren't careful. Once the prepayment is setup it is fine. 

If the numbers don't work, you aren't going to be able to force them to work. I'd recommend looking into other areas and saving the time/stress/money there. 

Systems and softwares will be your best friend. 

Definitely purchase a PMS, Guesty for hosts and Hostaway are well reviewed. This will handle all of your guest communications and make sure that your calendars are synced across airbnb, vrbo and booking.com 

-Splurge on the interior design, often times the interior design is a major differentiation between like properties. If it isn't your strong suit find a friend or family member who can help you out there. 


-Spend on the professional photos, all of the work/money you are investing is going into 20-30 photos, hire someone who has shot Airbnbs before if possible stage the property in a way that makes them emotionally connected to the property. Think smores by the fire place/ floaties in the pool/burgers on the grill etc. 

- Pricelabs for dynamic pricing is an incredible tool to help you manage your pricing. You can get pretty granular here with things like orphan day pricing, adjusting minimums as it gets closer to the actual date and creating seasonal pricing too. 


-I'd also purchase Airdna for your market for the month. It is 10 or 12 dollars and it will show you all of the top performing properties in the area. Look and see which ones are performing the best and try to incorporate as many of those elements as possible into your property. 

There are a few other things, but if you do all of these you will set yourself up for success. 

Quote from @Julie Gates:

I am so sorry, WOW. I just want you to know as a property manager I frequently speak with employees of these city utilities. They take A LOT of abuse. My advice is to call them, go down there, play poor, and then do it all again until you get some help. If you are kind, and I am not too proud to beg, they will help you out. Just don't stop being nice. That goes a long way.

I truly hope that you find a solution. Please post if you get one, I'd love to hear what they come up with for you.


 Hi Julia, We have a property manager too, kind of awkward timing as we were literally switching when we got this bill. This should definitely be something they should be leading the charge on right? 

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Escalate it with the utility provider. They just installed the meter, so it's probably faulty.

Even a toilet running full-time won't utilize that much water.

Thanks for all the help guys! The reading went from like 5 -> 249

You can also go on AirBNB/Vrbo set the time frame for a month and see how much competition/ prices are at. 

It's manual but I haven't found anything better at it to give you a good sense of demand. 

Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Call them. This should be a no-brainer.....


 We appealed and they denied us somehow. I'm pretty dumbfounded about how this is shaking out rn