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All Forum Posts by: Sayli Mulay

Sayli Mulay has started 5 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: Detroit Area Investors Question

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Travis Biziorek:
Originally posted by @David Roth:

@Travis Biziorek I have mainly been looking in the Ferndale, Royal Oak, Madison Heights, and Oak Park areas to try and take advantage of the young professionals moving into the area. I've so far been renting by the bed in a single family home and originally had plans to continue doing that as i accumulate properties, but it's been tough finding units i can collect enough rent on to make it worthwhile. Originally I thought I could ask for higher rent then I am now, but struggled somewhat to find potential tenants.

OK, so I don't invest in any of those areas. But that strategy is interesting. And by interesting I mean... a bit strange.

Personally, I don't know a lot of young professionals that would want to rent by the room. I lived in a San Francisco for YEARS and we rented by the room, but didn't. Leases were done with one or two people, and it was essentially up to us to fill them when someone moved out. It was common to live with 3-5 other people, one person in the house is responsible for collecting rent from all the others and interfacing/paying the landlord.

It works fine in high-priced rental markets, but notice that's different than what you're doing. You're selecting each individual tenant. Do they even have a say in who their roommates are? In San Francisco the vetting process was done by the existing tenants and pretty rigorous and competitive. These are people you have to SHARE a HOME with. I would have zero interest in renting from you if I'm not having a significant part in choosing my roommates. No thanks!

So what's that leave you with? Folks that a) either don't care who their roommates are (I'd guess this is because they are the person nobody wants to live with), or b) people who have no other option (e.g. renting by the room is most economical, they don't make much, and this is what makes sense). 

So you'd have high turnover because nobody wants to live with the person nobody wants to live with, and/or difficulty collecting rent from those that have no other option because they are likely very low income. 

The markets you list are higher-end, more desirable areas. That equates to healthy rents. So you shouldn't have a problem there. If the numbers aren't working, it's because you aren't buying right. How are you sourcing your deals? What kinds of properties are you purchasing? If you feel comfortable, share one of your properties and the numbers and we'll help try and figure out where you're going wrong. 

 @Travis, I just wanted to say that David Roth's strategy (Rent by the room) is getting popular in Bay Area,CA. I know many young investors here are getting success with this strategy (short term /mid term /long term). And these tenants are mostly young professionals earning 6 figures.

Post: pay down Jumbo Loan or buy a rental ?

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

@Jason Wray, thanks for the pointers.

I am looking at ‘no cost loans’ only. Paying points doesn’t make sense in my particular case. I checked with a few lenders and they had less favorable terms for jumbo loans (loan amount higher than 765k). You are right I may get better rate on jumbo if I shop around more.

Post: pay down Jumbo Loan or buy a rental ?

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

@Johnny Wolff , agreed. That is the beauty of buy and hold rentals.

But $600 reduction in monthly mortgage payment is tempting too! It would certainly improve my DTI ratio.

Post: pay down Jumbo Loan or buy a rental ?

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @John Teachout:

Based on your numbers, if it were me, I'd pay down the loan for the lower rate. Keep in mind you don't pay tax on money you save so consider that aspect too...

good point 

another point regarding tax is mortgage interest on beyond $750,000 in principal is not deductible

Post: pay down Jumbo Loan or buy a rental ?

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

I plan to refinance my primary residence (Bay Area,CA). I currently have jumbo loan at 3.75% and $70k cash saved up. I am thinking of 2 options -

#1. If I refi and pay down some of the principal (about $70k), I would get much better rate (because I can get rid of jumbo loan) and that will save me about $600 per month

#2. if I refi without the principle pay down, then I would get not-so-good rate and my payment will be reduced only by 200 per month but I can invest that 70k to purchase another rental (OOS of course) which probably would cashflow about 200 per month

What would you do ? - refi out of jumbo loan to save extra $400 or buy a rental that cashflows $200 ?

Post: Self Directed IRA to buy and hold rental

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Jared Friedman:

Yes. You do need some reserves if you have rentals. You need to factor paying for insurance, taxes, etc as well. I pay these once per year via my IRA custodian writing a check. I always do have a couple grand sitting in cash to take care of this or anything else that comes up. I purchased turnkey rentals in my SDIRA so its pretty darn passive. You can pick up properties for example in Toledo for $50- $60k that spit out $800 per month. So my rental income along with some note funds @ 10% per month spit out a few grand every month so theres always money coming in to take care of maintenance issues in a rental. My property management company takes out minor expenses from the rent to cover the little things. If you purchase a rental I would just make sure all the major Capex items ie) roof, furnace, water heater, etc are newer so theres less of a chance that you need to worry about factoring in a big ticket item into your cash reserves.

Thanks Jared Friedman. Your strategy sounds truely passive and hassel free. Congrats for your success.
In my market I can do cash purchase for 50-60K in C-/D class area. but I prefer to buy in B/B- area. The prices in B/B- area is around 150K hence the need to leverage.

Post: Self Directed IRA to buy and hold rental

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

one last question - Does it matter where The advisory firm and IRA custodian are located? do they have to be in the state where the property is?

Post: Self Directed IRA to buy and hold rental

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Brian Eastman:

@Sayli Mulay @Account Closed

Not everyone qualifies for a Solo 401(k), which requires some form of owner-only business creating earned income.

Passive income from rentals does not qualify one to sponsor a Solo 401(k).

An IRA can be configured to provide the same level of "checkbook control" as the Solo 401(k) with the creation of an IRA-owned LLC. An IRA is still required to be held by and reported on by a custodian, but the IRA makes one investment into a specially formed LLC entity. You as the IRA account holder can act as manager of the LLC and use the LLC to make all investment transactions. You do not need to have the custodian process investment transactions.

It is kind of like having a conventional IRA invest in a single fund, but you get to be the "fund manager". More importantly, this "fund" (the LLC) can invest in anything the IRS rules allow for and is not artificially limited by what the custodian's processing capacity is.

Thank you Brian for explaining Solo 401(k) and IRA-owned LLC
followup question (rather a dumb question) - IRA custodian will provide me (as manager of the LLC) a checkbook, Just like a regular checking account in a bank ?

Post: Self Directed IRA to buy and hold rental

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

@Daniel C. I didn't look into solo-401K because I thought I am not eligible. I am not self-employed. I don't have a business. If I form an LLC for my rental investment will I be eligible for solo-401K ?

And you are right about SDIRA 'checking with a custodian' is one my concerns too.

Post: Self Directed IRA to buy and hold rental

Sayli MulayPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hayward, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

@Jared Friedman

Thank for the passive investments ideas. I will look into crowdstreet, fundrise sites.

Okay, Here is my understanding about the reserve funds in Ira, please correct me if I am wrong -

Even if I purchase rental in cash I still need to have some reserve funds in my Ira for vacancy, eviction expenses. capex, fixed expenses etc. right?

but I should not keep too much of reserve in Ira because it just sits there, it does not earn any interest correct ?

If needed, in case SDIRA funds run out then I can contribute (upto $5500 /year) or move funds from my other retirement accounts into SDIRA right ?