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Welcome to the REI Industry!
Turn-key is difficult to have cashflow.
I work with clients often in FL and would love to connect if you ever have questions or need some insight on deals!
Hi Ryan, what would say some of the pros/cons are about choosing TurnKey Properties?
Any info would be appreciated, thanks!
Think about it this way:
A fix and flipper buys a property for $100k. They renovate it for an additional $50k. They are all in at $150k. Now, they sell it to a turnkey investor for $200k. That investor is going to have to pay the premium of the property and now, it may not even cashflow because they would have had to likely mortgage it at the 200k value with a 25% (50k) down payment at 8.5% = $1,153.37/month mortgage payment. On top of that who knows how much it could rent for.
Now, let's be the person who buys the property initially:
We get a loan for 75% LTV on the purchase price and 100% of the reno costs with Interest only payments. That loan is for a full $125k. Let's say the whole renovation is going to take 8 months. With today's hard money interest rates, let's say the annual Interest rate is 12%. After the 8 months, here is your cost breakdown: $25k down payment, $1,200 ($150/month) for insurance, $8,000 for interest, taxes (let's say $600/month) of $4,800 = $39,000 (You can also add the hard money loan closing costs of ~$5k)
Now, the property you renovated is worth $200k and you can refinance from your Hard money Loan into a conventional or DSCR Loan with 75% LTV. You get $150k. You pay off the $125k hard money loan. Now you have $25k to work with. Let's take away $5k for the closing costs for the HML. Now you have $20k. Let's take away 10k for the closing costs on the refinance mortgage. You are left with $10k. Now you put that towards your expenses on the project $39k - $10k = $29k.
It cost you $29k to get $50k worth of equity in a newly renovated property doing that strategy.
Compared:
-$50k to get Turnkey, $50k of equity, and very little experience real estate investing
-$29k to get BRRRR strategy property, $50k equity, a TON of experience real estate investing