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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Johnson

Ryan Johnson has started 7 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Do you pay for your REIA

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

I got to tell you that I can give you a perspective from the other side of the REIA. I play a pretty significant role in the workings of our Minnesota REIA and it's not something you would necessarly do for the membership fees because a lot of that goes right into the club.

We charge $25 after two freebies for a door fee and $24.95 month/$249.50 for the year and from there same pattern with $29.95 for couples and $39.95 for a business (four pack).

But compared to the $25 monthly subscription that I have to a lot of educational sites I would have to say that the benefits of a REIA is definately worth more and provides an environment of pure real estate. Aside from a REIA you'll be hard press to find places where you can network with so many investors in one place who are in your market. You really want to network with these investors most of all!

There are a lot of costs that go into a REIA and the successful ones are the ones that are run by people who do it to build a community and not so much the money. But altogether it is definately money well spent.

Post: Scott Rister Instant Cash Wholesaling Houses

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

That's a shame, probably the fault of a new office employee or something. The course materials he offers from what I've read and heard (1 course binder & 3 audio kits) are quality programs. He's up there with Richard Roop, my hero lol. But I think Than's marketing program materials are some of the most comprehensive out there when it comes to more bang for the buck.

Post: Web Marketing for Real Estate

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

Exactly, there are already a world of investors specializing and competing for seo real estate so in order to make a splash in a certain area you have to specialize it and hit it harder than anyone else in order to be truely competitive.

Post: Gurus vs. Experts - Is there a Difference?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

Lol it's because they hide under the guise of land trusts :)

Post: Survey: What is your definition or idea of a marketing campaign?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

There's the reply I was looking for! :)

Post: Survey: What is your definition or idea of a marketing campaign?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

Aw shucks you guys are absolutely right, I totally misinterpreted Dan's post. I had my marketing strategy hat on and read too much into "My ideal lead gen campaign" like he was pushing a system. But I see what he's getting at now, and yeah a totally hands off marketing campaign that ran itself would be the bee's knees.

Sorry for the mistake Dan, I'll definately make a note to put more thought into my actions on the forums.

Some of these answers are great, can we get more into what a marketing campaign means to you? A couple more good ones and I'll be able to weave a pretty good piece.

Post: Survey: What is your definition or idea of a marketing campaign?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by Dan O'Connor:
My ideal lead gen campaign...

so drop dead simple (and effective) that it can all happen without me. :cool:


Now really what kind of answer is this? Why doesn't the spam function work on this forum?

Post: Gurus vs. Experts - Is there a Difference?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

Now this is an interesting topic!

I posted a little bit of my take on gurus in the comments of my blog but I’ll go with this vein since I had some more time to mull it over.

To me it seems people rarely use the term ‘guru’ to describe someone unless the message that someone is a guru already exists. Sometimes wires get crossed and people think all speakers are considered gurus but I think ‘guru’ has run out its use and from my experience with speakers they’ll call themselves everything but a guru because it is now a worn out marketing label with mixed connotations. One interesting thing that just occurred to me is that when they are speaking with less enthusiasm about all the other speakers they’ll use the term guru, almost like they are trying to bury the label by comparing themselves as experts while all the others are so called gurus. Next time you see a speaker keep your ears open when they use the ‘me & my’ vs. ‘them & their’.

‘Expert’ will always have a clear title because it is so widely used and a simple textbook definition in the language. ‘Guru’ isn’t as commonly used and has more or less been bastardized by some unscrupulous marketers.

In a perfect world I would say the difference between Gurus and Experts would be that Gurus aren’t only experts but they take the extra steps to take their systems, methods, and experience and form a course to instill the investor ability in others in a more comprehensive and organized fashion.

It’s the nature of profit and opportunity that brings out the bad apples who taint the well and it makes it a little harder to separate the good gurus from pseudo-gurus so renowned experts have to market in different ways (if they know what’s good for them) to sidestep that image.

Many speakers have their real estate systems and a team in place that allows them to go on the road, but in order to be competitive, answer questions, and stay on top of things the good ones know that they need to keep in touch with the nitty-gritty of investing because it shows in their presentations and their materials (good ones mind you).

From firsthand experience I can tell you that we are developing a course and there is a world of thought that goes into it and a major concern of ours is not taking on the title of ‘guru’ but to let the materials, the ideas, and the methods speak for themselves. One of my favorite books ‘Career Renegade’ explains the need for these courses and speakers and that is because it is the best way to increase your knowledge and your skills in a sane amount of time. His example was that he was trying to teach himself copywriting and spent a lot of time and effort into pulling from all these resources, but one day he bit the bullet attended a bootcamp and learned more in one weekend than in a year of trying to shore up all the information himself.

In a business where we price ourselves out of certain duties and hire others because we value our time at $XX(X) per hour and someone who values their time that much isn’t going to be folding letters and mailing envelops. If you try to start from scratch and hit the boards you can very well make it, but dagnamit it’s going to take a lot longer.

A last word, if a legit guru were here who sells courses I'm sure they would bring up the 'investment in education' angle where someone needs to invest a large sum into education in order to take it seriously. Kind of true, I read a lot more courses than I do free eBooks from start to finish.

Post: Survey: What is your definition or idea of a marketing campaign?

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

I have a simple survey question here that always seems to result in a wide array of response whenever I'm talking with investors. The question is:

What is your definition/idea of a Marketing Campaign?

I'm working on an article for the BiggerPockets blog and am looking for some responses that I can use to illustrate some points.

Marketing Campaign seems to be one of those terms that is loosely defined and I think that such an important term deserves some clarity so when we use the term we'll all be that much closer to being on the same page.

Post: Email Blasts

Ryan JohnsonPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 4

Hi Nate,

There isn't any best thing to do that works for everyone. The first thing I would look at is how you accumulate your email list. If you do it through an opt in system and have a targeted list of email recepients who want to hear from you then the junk folder shouldn't be as much of an issue. So really where you want to start following the trail is how you're getting these emails and then weigh out the pros and cons of text vs html.

If your audience isn't highly targeted then you should take the lead of the spammers and use text because when they open their mail and see X's where photos should be it's an auto delete. On the other hand text gets through directly and they are exposed to the message where with the html they might not see anything but a bunch of empty boxes.

Text is simply more direct and more personal and many of the guru's that border on spamish behaviors have taken note of this.

I'm a fan of html though because you can get the interactivity going and they're engaged if they are expecting it (opt-in) because they'll click to see images. When I'm dealing with people I know like my buyers list and investors who also know me I will go with the html for the engagement factor and it allows me to plug in extra stuff in an orderly fashion.

But think about how you do business and use that to guide you as to what direction to take. For instance when I get business cards and give business card I make clear that I have a dynomite mailing that I send out every Wednesday (REIA events are Tuesdays) and talk it up so they are excited to receive it the next day.

It's not just about what you are doing but also about what else you are doing to stack the deck in your favor.

Oh, I use AutoPilotRiches and it works just fine for my needs.