All Forum Posts by: Ryan McCook
Ryan McCook has started 11 posts and replied 18 times.
Post: considering C class SFR, talk me out of it (or into it)

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Post: considering C class SFR, talk me out of it (or into it)

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Here's my situation. I have 9 SFR
rentals in Arizona. I'm in a good spot - decent equity, lowish
interest, etc. I'm very interested in acquiring more and really
expanding my portfolio. I could cash out refi and acquire another 9 or
so. However, I'm concerned that I might be buying too high. Cashing out
on my current, plus buying more, might just essentially mean I bought 18
properties at a high point in the market.
So
instead, I'm thinking about holding onto my current homes with good
terms, and investing in an area where homes don't tend to appreciate as
much, but where I can buy for cheap and try to cash flow a little.
Example, thinking about downtown Fort Worth where I can get some crummy
homes on the wholesale market for around 40-50k. Maybe fix up a bit, and
get the value to about 100k and refi and get most of my money out.
The thought process is, maybe during a high market, I should put my money where homes don't tend to appreciate or depreciate and try to make a little change with the rents. I know there are risks, but what are your thoughts (experienced investors) in renting to lower income/rundown areas?
Post: considering C class SFR, talk me out of it (or into it)

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Here's my situation. I have 9 SFR rentals in Arizona. I'm in a good spot - decent equity, lowish interest, etc. I'm very interested in acquiring more and really expanding my portfolio. I could cash out refi and acquire another 9 or so. However, I'm concerned that I might be buying too high. Cashing out on my current, plus buying more, might just essentially mean I bought 18 properties at a high point in the market.
So instead, I'm thinking about holding onto my current homes with good terms, and investing in an area where homes don't tend to appreciate as much, but where I can buy for cheap and try to cash flow a little. Example, thinking about downtown Fort Worth where I can get some crummy homes on the wholesale market for around 40-50k. Maybe fix up a bit, and get the value to about 100k and refi and get most of my money out.
The thought process is, maybe during a high market, I should put my money where homes don't tend to appreciate or depreciate and try to make a little change with the rents. I know there are risks, but what are your thoughts (experienced investors) in renting to lower income/rundown areas?
Post: considering C class SFR, talk me out of it (or into it)

- Posts 18
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Here's my situation. I have 9 SFR rentals in Arizona. I'm in a good spot - decent equity, lowish interest, etc. I'm very interested in acquiring more and really expanding my portfolio. I could cash out refi and acquire another 9 or so. However, I'm concerned that I might be buying too high. Cashing out on my current, plus buying more, might just essentially mean I bought 18 properties at a high point in the market.
So instead, I'm thinking about holding onto my current homes with good terms, and investing in an area where homes don't tend to appreciate as much, but where I can buy for cheap and try to cash flow a little. Example, thinking about downtown Fort Worth where I can get some crummy homes on the wholesale market for around 40-50k. Maybe fix up a bit, and get the value to about 100k and refi and get most of my money out.
The thought process is, maybe during a high market, I should put my money where homes don't tend to appreciate or depreciate and try to make a little change with the rents. I know there are risks, but what are your thoughts (experienced investors) in renting to lower income/rundown areas?
Post: own 9 rental properties, what should i do next?

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Originally posted by @Bryan Rogers:
I would agree with Paul on the multi-family part. You are sitting on almost $1,000,000 of equity and you're brining in roughly $48,600 a year. That kind of cash would land you in the $2.5 - $3 mill range and even at a lower cap rate you would still bring in more per year. My father-in-law and I are in almost the same boat. 13 houses netting just over $60K a year with roughly $1.4 mill of equity. He's tired of spending so much time on them for that return. We are about to pull the trigger on selling everything off, doing a 1031, and getting an apartment complex. Oversee the management company (much less of a time investment than being a landlord) and bring minimum $20K more than we are now.....might be worth looking into!
Bryan Rogers
I agree that would be better if I found those types of terms, but I haven't been able to locate the type of deals that would bring a minimum of 20k. In fact, with costs of financing, my net gain doesn't seem to be much at all. Especially because I can reasonably easily manage the 9, whereas, I would need management company to help manage the apartments.
Post: own 9 rental properties, what should i do next?

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I appreciate all the advice. @Alan Grobmeier I agree that the market seems to be turning down. Part of me wonders if cashing out, while still covering my existing rents with a little room for cushion would put me in a spot to have 350k for the eventual downturn. Maybe even though my net cost would go up on the existing, i would then have sufficient cash to scoop up multiple properties on the downturn. thoughts?
Post: own 9 rental properties, what should i do next?

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I also, I want to add, the 9 rental properties are currently on 30 year fixed loans of an average of 4.625%. So cash out refi would result in higher interest and likely some form of 7-10 year term.
Post: own 9 rental properties, what should i do next?

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Over the last 5 years, I have acquired 9 rental properties in Phoenix, AZ. Homes cash flow approx. $450 per month each (some more, some less), and there's quite a bit of equity now since the market has risen. Amount owed, approx 1.3 m and they are worth approx 2.2 m. I don't have much liquid cash to keep acquiring. I can go the slow route and pick up maybe 1 home a year, or I could consider cash out refi and pick up another 9 or so properties, but the margins on my existing 9 would probably just cover maintenance and rent loss if i cashed out. What would you do in this scenario? I have tried my hand at flipping, but not with significant success. My first 2 homes netted me about 8k total.