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All Forum Posts by: Ross Bowman

Ross Bowman has started 20 posts and replied 108 times.

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Yourri-Samuel Dessureault:

@Ross Bowman Solar can be quite cost prohibitive and it's highly dependent on where you live if it makes sense. I would recommend a website called EnergySage to get you started. There is an incredible amount of data and info on there. For example you can find your average cost per kWh there and see if it's cheaper (on your time horizon) to get panels. For me the math was easy b/c I'm on propane for all of my fuel needs, and propane is $$$.

I live in the CA mountains of a high desert, so I have an 80+ sun score which yields far more power than I can use. Additionally, with the fire risk in my area we experience a significant number of mandatory power outages to mitigate fire risk, so those panels (plus the back up battery) actually added a significant amount of value to my home. I just had it reappraised to remove my PMI, and the appraiser included 100% of the cost to the home value.

 Wow, super helpful info, I'm going to check that out. We get a lot of sun where I live, so it's definitely worth investigating. 

And it sounds like you get some tax benefits from it as well? I report too, so anyway to offset that tax burden is always interesting to me. 

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Yourri-Samuel Dessureault:

Not quite the same as @Ross Bowman is suggesting, but I too am using BTC mining to off set costs in my primary residence.

I live in an area with expensive costs for electricity and heating fuel, so I did the math and found that mining BTC could yield savings. For me, my BTC mining allows we to heat the 2nd floor of my home, get additional exposure to BTC with compounding interest of 4.5% APY via BlockFi, and since I report my mining I get to do MACRs on my solar panels (which power my miners and the rest of my house) and the mining equipment. Needless to say it's a wonderful way to save money/invest while living in California.



Question: the solar thing is really interesting. Any tips there? I was looking into it, but the cost to set up panels that would actually provide me the wattage I need (about 11,000W per month) seemed prohibitive. But I admittedly don't know much about solar. 

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Don Konipol:

@Ross Bowman

Must be tough when your self congratulatory nonsense is exposed and your ego takes a hit. If you actually have an INNOVATIVE strategy I’m sure all us EXPERIENCED investors would love to hear it.

 Probably almost as painful as missing out on the best performing asset of the decade. Here's some numbers for ya:

ADU conversion: $50k (approx)

Monthly Airbnb rev: $1500 (approx, after expenses) 

Or 

ADU bitcoin farm conversion: 18k approx

Monthly rev: $2000 (approx, after electricity costs) 

Yearly rev: $24000

Two year rev: $48000 (166% return) 

I don't need self-congratulatory nonsense - frontrunning dinosaurs feels a lot better. 

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Don Konipol:

@Ross Bowman

Not sure how covering your mortgage payment on real property with the profits from a separate business endeavor qualifies as “innovative”. If the mortgage in question is on your personal residence, everyone else who owns their own home covers their mortgage with business profits, investment income or employment earnings. The fact that you have a business mining Bitcoin is no different in this context from owning a clothing store, managing a venture capital partnership, or singing professionally.

If the mortgage is on a commercial or investment property, and either it’s not income producing or has a negative cash flow, then that’s no different then about half our borrowers who need outside sources of income to “feed the alligator”.

Guess I’m just not wowed by the fact that you’ve invested enough in hardware and power to turn a profit mining Bitcoin.

People share about converting part of a home to an ADU for house hacking on here all the time.


Goal isn't to impress the tech-illiterate; goal is to give other people ideas who may be in a similar situation. That's literally the point of this forum. 

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Jason Shackleton:

@Ross Bowman I love that strategy. Nice work! I would set some cash aside for tax time as I believe mining will be seen as a taxable event. Just a thought. keep it up. 

 Totally - thanks man! Yeah I have a CPA who is bitcoin friendly and can handle it for me like business income. Plus write-offs, etc...

Post: House-hacking with a bitcoin farm

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126

Not sure why BP deleted my previous post - seems like the definition of an innovative strategy. 

TLDR: I cover my mortgage with a small bitcoin mining farm. 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

Post: I am a general contractor. ASK ME ANYTHING!

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126

Appreciate you doing this! Would love your input on the following: 

It is very hard to find contractors in my area. It's super competitive and they have more work than they can handle.

How does one stand out as a client, besides always paying on time and basic things like that? What's the best way to reach out that will actually get them to respond and work with you?

Post: Crypto has better growth and passive income over real estate?

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126

People can dismiss bitcoin all they want (even though that's pretty silly after a decade of being proven wrong). 

But it doesn't matter - in another decade everyone here will own it, whether they planned to or not. 

Post: House Hack Deal Analysis

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Andy Bailey:

Can you do a Heloc? How large is the garage? Is it on a slab and are your having to dig up the slab for plumbing? 

Cant do a HELOC unfortunately - not enough equity yet for it to make sense. New house.

Garage is a 2 car and its on a slab so yep we'd have to jackhammer/dig up for plumbing. It's also all the way to the back of the yard, so they'd have to run plumbing to it from the main house.

Post: House Hack Deal Analysis

Ross BowmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 126
Originally posted by @Matthew Powell:

Hey Ross! Smart moves! I'd recommend checking your local zoning to make sure you can legally turn the SFH into a Multi Family. Otherwise, more power to you! STR can bring a good cash flow. Automate it as much as you can!

Ah good, point! I didn't realize an ADU would qualify it as a multifamily?

I have seen a handful of my neighbors have detached guest houses so I assume it's okay but will double check that.