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All Forum Posts by: Ronald Barthelus

Ronald Barthelus has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Real Estate 2.0 Same Business, Maybe I'm Outdated!

Ronald BarthelusPosted
  • Morrisville, NC
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1

@ Tony Han & Michael Sato thanks for the welcome, appreciate it.!

Post: Real Estate 2.0 Same Business, Maybe I'm Outdated!

Ronald BarthelusPosted
  • Morrisville, NC
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1

@ Ibrahim Huges, Thanks! I'm in Morrisville, sort of in the middle of the Triangle Raleigh/Durham

@ Nick Chucales as I stated in my original response my experience with various companies will differ from others, before a purchased my Hyundai for my daughter going off to college, I did my research and it was mixed review, more bad than good but there was plenty of negative feedback to support the idea that I should re-consider a purchase from them. I can't speak of someone's experience and I am not attempting to convince anyone otherwise either. I encourage all to do their due diligence on free or paid training products and hopefully you can connect with a mentor/coach who has character integrity and experience as a mentor to help you navigate the waters. 

When I became a sales agent in 1998 I knew nothing there were not as many of these programs available and I learned it all the hard way cause I thought all those programs were a scam Carlton Sheets, Ron LeGrand etc. Before opening a brokerage office after 5 years in I knew a whole lot more about the business. I was unsure and new and feared doing something wrong, losing money and reputation.  

Turns out though many of the strategies are being used today and being repackaged and sold with webinars, and squeeze pages some different verbiage and the power of internet marketing. Not a lot under the sun, the differences I found are knowing how to use and apply the strategies in actual transactions. Which is where everyone seems to take issue with the coaching premium prices versus the value received. If vetting all of the mentoring /coaching programs thoroughly were easy, it would be great.  We have forums for social proof and possibly BBB(whatever that's worth). The focus here to me is to learn, learn, learn as much as you can, and implement with guidance, if possible,  from honest experienced peers in the business.  I commend J Scott for what he has contributed to the RE business, but unless I have experience working with his products or services I'm more comfortable recommending what I have worked with. I believe that should  not cast aspersions nor take away from what he provides in recommending something else.

I applaud your business model and it's success, keep doing what you do. You observed a need in the market to help novices that provides mentorship at no cost, I'm with that. As I mentioned there is alot of junk out there and one should do their due diligence to determine what works for them, if they can get advice from individuals like yourself, that's a great benefit. I can't comment on anything specific about your methods and what you offer since I have not utilized it. 

Full disclosure was my statement about the product I have used and the value it provided. I was satisfied with their guarantees and what they offered. Some people do require guarantees to invest in these programs. They're only as good as the company and the character of the people offering them. It goes both ways though, there are many free products and books that offer only but so much but they don't fill in the gaps. Which leave novices guessing making mistakes or losing lots of money. I can't determine the premium that should be paid to walk through that process for a novice who doesn't want to fail in their transactions going it alone. 

Although we may not agree with the cost one "guru" charges, others may be fine with it. Don't like it, then we educate others of the alternatives (which you have done, I certainly know I have).

I recommended research, which only goes but so far besides a recommendation from others who have used them (experienced social proof). Websites, webinars, marketing, SEO can make company's look credible. Again I could only speak for the ones I used. 

It's amazing that if you were to google the complaints on Apple , Honda , McDonald's some of the major company's in their market, thousands of customers have their complaints unresolved or very unsatisfied. I realize that they're not asking for thousands of dollars for a perceived system but if you count the number of times that we've ever gone through fast food (if you do, i know plenty who don't) we spend the money and it only seems okay cuz it's cheap and we perceive it to have the value we want to make a purchase.  Apple phones are $800 and $900 and we fork over the money for that and we kind of dont think about it at all. You have to be able to invest in yourself... Full disclosure, I have paid and used Josh's system, not cause I have drunk the kool aid, I believe in mentorship's. I realize until you've actually use them you might not know unless someone who has used them will tell you otherwise,  but Josh Cantwell is for real and so is his product and I've done others. Honestly one of the things that I find is that even if you spend the money a lot of times people don't take the actions that are recommended in order to make things happen and have the system work for them.  I will say emphatically there are no magic potions and no silver bullet you do the system, you work the system it does have results but everything is not for everyone and some take more time than others. Totally agree with you doing your due diligence, it's a must, there is a lot of junk out there. You definitely have to find what works for you and your budget. 

Post: Real Estate 2.0 Same Business, Maybe I'm Outdated!

Ronald BarthelusPosted
  • Morrisville, NC
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1

Hello everyone!!!!  New year new me, I'm from NJ born and raised (30+yrs) but relocated in 2015 to NC so I'm learning the lay of the land. Amazingly I have been a sales agent (10+yrs), part owner in a brokerage, and a Jr. Appraiser (4+yrs)but I feel like I am learning a whole new industry. I started out in the very late 90's using the traditional methods of doing real estate, buy and hold and flipping when buyers only needed to breathe and have a pulse and they were approved...but since that time I lost it all during the bubble. Within the last year I have got back on the bicycle (after taking my bruises) and feel like I don't know how to ride..!? Being a marketer is the one thing you never learn in real estate school, and I had only one tool that worked. So now I am learning to reach out to communities and learn, learn, learn..!! What ever expertise I can offer of my years in the business, I am more than happy to share. Looking forward to the exchange of knowledge, information, and experiences with you all!