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All Forum Posts by: Robert Gibbs

Robert Gibbs has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Out of state wholesaling

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Hello everyone, 


Quick question, I currently live in California and have my entity set up in California to do deals in state. My question is, how would I go about doing wholesale deals in another market outside of California? Do I need to register as a foreign entity? Or how would I go about it? 

Post: Looking to acquire dead leads

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Hey guys! I’m currently living in Southern California and I’m looking for some dead leads from wholesalers or anyone in general. My partner is handling our OOS properties and we want to expand into SoCal because it’s close to home. If there is anyone who has dead leads and needs help getting them off of their hands PM me so we can connect, get my buyers criteria and get some deal flow going! 

Thanks!

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Tim Herman:

@Robert Gibbs hard to analyze without more details. Is it a 500 sf sfh. or 10000 sf 8-plex. Each has a different capex and repair budget. I just looked up property tax for Columbus and it averages over 2%. You would be looking around $5400 per year in taxes. You have a $100 MISC FEE. No PM charge. 


 Hi Tim, thanks for the feedback. I adjusted the deal to reflect the 2% property tax. The 100 dollar misc fee was a safety expense in case I noticed the yard wasn’t being taken care of. I am going to be managing the property myself. The property is a 3 bed 1.5 bath duplex. 2112 sq ft. 

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Hey guys, can I get some feedback on this deal analysis? The deal is fully remodeled. The listing gave the average rent prices and I looked then up using the rent estimator. I also went on the higher side with the down payment and interest rate even though the interest rate still may be higher but I'm hoping someone will correct that. Thanks!

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Post: Structuring a partnership

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Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Depends on each persons role. Last resort should be 50/50, I would borrow the money and give the investor a return at the end of the project. 


 That is my ultimate goal for the partnership. I would prefer to give the investor the return at the end 

Post: Structuring a partnership

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I like that idea if my partner doesn't want cashflow. Question, did you and your partner sign a formal agreement with an attorney or did you both draw up a document with all the deal details, sign it and file it to have it on record? just curious. And a second question if you know the answer, with partnering, do both partners get to "claim" the same net worth or just the partner that holds the property is his name?

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Hey guys! Can I get some feedback on this deal? It is located in Columbus, Ohio and I'm looking to see if I am running the numbers correctly. 

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Post: Starting a LLC before or after

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Hi guys! Should I start an LLC before or after I've already gotten a deal? And if after, what would be the process of transferring the property from my name into the company name be? Any tips or advice welcome! Thank you!

Post: Structuring a partnership

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Hey guys! Any tips or advice for partnerships? How to structure the deal? Should I give up both cash flow and equity or just equity? Should I 50/50 split or 60/40? Anything helps! Thanks! 

Post: First time poster, new to real estate, very hungry

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Quote from @Leo R.:
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Quote from @Leo R.:

@Robert Gibbs welcome, and good luck on your investing journey.

My two cents:  a house hack (which can be a single fam or small multifam property) is the best way to start off--and is a far better strategy for a beginner than an OOS property.

A good house hack will simultaneously lower your living expenses while increasing your income (the fundamental recipe for building wealth), it will teach you many of the essential skills you'll need to succeed in REI (like due diligence, tenant screening, property management, etc.), and--importantly--it's MUCH simpler and easier than other strategies like OOS investing (which tends to have a lot more risk and a much steeper learning curve).  

Unfortunately, we regularly see beginner investors on the forums with nightmare scenario properties (non-paying tenants, crime, property destruction, and MIA PMs), and their story is almost always the same: it was their first property, and they bought OOS because the cashflow was great (on paper), and "it looked great in the photos", but the property was a lipsticked pig rehab in a C or D neighborhood, and they learned the hard way that PMs have no incentive to put in the significant effort required to manage in a C or D area for the minimal revenue such a property produces....that's a lesson I'm glad I haven't had to learn through experience!

Fortunately, there are simpler, easier REI strategies (like house hacking) that have lower risk profiles.

Good luck out there!


 Thanks for the feedback Leo! I am not closed off to the opportunity to house hack. I would actually love to find a deal. The only issue I run into is that I live in Southern California and home prices keep going up and up. My ideal house hack would be a small multifamily and I am currently looking for one so any inquiries would be much appreciated! lol

I completely understand all the risk in OOS and understand a lot of investors either fail or don't do well with it. My personality is a go-getter when it comes to work. I'm either going to do it 100% or I'm not going to waste my time. I strive to be the best in everything I do. So OOS investing is a challenge that I want to take head on because I don't know anything other way. I would love any advice you have or any tips you may have when it comes to OOS. Anything helps!


I would suggest studying up on all the OOS resources you can find (books, podcasts, forum posts), and asking OOS investors for their biggest lessons learned (a lot of these are already discussed frequently on the forums).  One of the most important things with OOS is creating and incentivizing a team of boots on the ground--this is notoriously difficult to accomplish, but it's absolutely necessary for success.

When comparing OOS properties to in-state house hacks, always remember to factor in the reduced (or eliminated) housing expense the house hack brings. For instance, if the house hack grosses $2k/month in rent AND saves you $1k/month in housing expenses, your gross is $3k.

Good luck!


 Always good to keep the options open for in state to reduce the expenses on a house hack then go right into an out of state to increase the income for cashflow. Unless you are sitting on a pile of cash, your income will not get replaced overnight. Some people build this up over a few years, some six to seven years and some hit one property at a time for ten years. Whatever the goal is just know that either you are going to go it alone and it will take longer to replace an income of SoCal status along with getting the amount of money to live on; and it is something that will take some time gaining the knowledge. 

Another option to get there quicker is partnering as someone mentioned on this thread. That is an option too, you just need to build that plan and go after it. Also, I agree, the plan for how you will do it and building those relationships either here in SoCal to partner or on the ground in those markets you pick. You need to be methodical about it as you are on BP asking questions I can see you are being methodical about it! Good luck! 


 SoCal income is super hard to replace and that will take time I know that. Everyone always has to keep their options open because you never know what’s ahead. I‘ve been really thinking about house hacking and building more up to it because I want to lower my monthly expenses. Putting all of that into an OOS is a super good tip that I’m going to for sure use! You have to be methodical just like you said and that’s why I’m asking questions from people who have done it.