All Forum Posts by: Rob Bowling

It's going to depend on your state. In normal times non renewals are straight forward. You are under no obligation to continue leasing to someone after the lease period. But in some states judges aren't granting non renewals. Ask an attorney in your area if judges are granting non renewals.

 You say " under no circumstances should a pm take a loss".

Really?  What if they erred and just now caught this, and it's outside the window of appeal?  I can give lots of other examples. Just because you are the " agent" doesn't mean you automatically get made whole in the case of your negligence. If their error caused the loss then they absolutely should take a loss.

Lots of unanswered questions here to use words like " under no circumstances".

I've got 40 something sect 8 tenants currently, so I obviously accept and deal with sect 8. But with that being said, it's a pain in the ***. LOTS of paperwork, unfavorable terms, tenants get the upper hand, bad inspectors make things miserable, a huge delay in getting paid etc.

Ive had an inspector fail a unit for no hot water heater ( it was a renewal inspection, not even initial), she wasn't aware the whole building had a centralized boiler. My question of course was...." Why didn't she just turn the faucet on?"

i had an inspection fail because the tenant had his bedroom in the living room. Why do they care where the tenants bdrm is?

i greatly dislike that no matter what the situation is, it's the landlords responsibility to fix. The front of the stove is shattered, the tenant has been there for 6 years, but they still insisted I fix it before payments would be resumed. I've got hundreds of stories.  I don't blame anyone who doesn't take sect 8, I've greatly lowered it myself as far as an overall percentage.

Each city and judge might be different. I've successfully gotten rid of 4 tenants in the past 5 months through non renewal. Like the judge told my last tenant that showed up via zoom....." I can't make a landlord keep leasing to you after a lease is over, just like I can't force you to stay at the completion of your lease."

I also don't believe the CDC order addresses it because non renewals aren't considered evictions. You can be non renewed, and that wouldn't show up as an eviction.

An attorney in your particular city will be able to tell you in 10 seconds how that city is addressing non renewals.

Tenants are protected for non payment regardless of lease type. However, you can still evict for lease violations and many states are granting non renewals. Which means you give them a 30 day ( or whatever your state requires) notice you aren't renewing their lease, since your tenant is month to month.

Assuming there isn't a lease in place, many states are granting non renewals. Your attorney is going to have to tell you if your state is granting them.

Unfortunately you are going to have to speak with an Attorney that knows the current rules in your particular state.

Several have mentioned eviction for non payment. You can't do that right now anywhere in the US. BUT alot of states are allowing non-renewal. As long as the tenant isn't under a lease, and yours isn't, you want to file for non-renewal. An attorney will tell you if your state is granting non renewals. I've gotten rid of 3, going on 4 tenants through the pandemic with non renewals.

I have alot of sect 8 tenants who pay part of the rent. You said it says $1350 in the lease, sounds like the $150 is the renters portion that they pay.

I never understood the need to kick out tenants to clean up their mess. The goal is to make money, not rehab units. It's not preferable that he is a hoarder, but the mess is already there. If he pays on time, continue to take his money. The mess will be there to clean up tomorrow or ten years from now, whenever he moves out.

Exactly, a whole bunch of generalizations and ignorant comments. Just because someone doesn't invest in the same class of real estate it doesn't equate to greed. Good grief.

And don't fool yourself, we all are in this for the money.