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All Forum Posts by: Rob Randle

Rob Randle has started 28 posts and replied 80 times.

Post: Tenants and Keys - System

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

What I've done is put passage knobs (that do not have a locking mechanism) for the bottom handle and a deadbolt for the top part. This way they will never get locked out (when the door closes behind them)

 good idea, didn't think of that

Post: Tenants and Keys - System

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Elizabeth Colegrove:

I don't do lock outs ;) per my lease it is there responsibility! If they are locked out they have to fix the situation. If locks are changed than they need to mail me keys! I self-manage across the country. All of this is lade out in my 14 page lease. On my website I have a an article where it details all of my amendments.

 I just looked on your website, that is some good stuff.  I'm going to use some of that. Are you creating a separate addendum for each clause?

Post: Tenants and Keys - System

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

I'm a soon to be first time landlord and looking to come up with ideas to how to handle the key situation with tenants (lock-outs ect.).  I will be self managing and do not want to deal at all with lock outs at 1 a.m.  I want to completely take myself out of the equation and looking for advice on what systems you guys use.  Below are some of my thoughts, however I may be over-thinking.

1. Have a 24hr local locksmith hold on to a set of extra keys for the unit.  I would give tenant their number to contact them if they get locked out.  Tenants would be charged what ever the locksmith charges.  I've called a few locksmiths and have yet to find one that offers this type of service.  I would even be willing to pay a small fee each month for them to hold on to my spares.  Seems like a win-win for the locksmith, they get my yearly fee and secure the business when my tenants lock themselves out.

2. The only other thing I can think of is charging like $250 dollars if they get locked out an and I have to let them in.  I would incorporate it into the lease.  That way I create a barrier to them calling me and get compensated generously for my time.  I am around 45 min from my rental.

How are you handling this situation?

Post: New Landlord, Advice Appreciated

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Mark Langdon:

Rob;

To answer some of your questions:

1) Keep looking and searching. You should be able to find one. Also I would get a lawyer to get a solid lease. Downloading forms is risky. At a minimum use the NJ Realtor Lease agreeement.

2) NJ Truth is Lending is a good start. Other than that use the BP Forums to enhance your lease and how you perform as a Landlord

3) I do 2 leases. They sign both and send back to me. Then I send both and send and scan 1 copy back to them

4) I like to do both the Deposit and Lease the same time if at all possible. The Lease becomes void if the deposit check and first month's rent bounces

5) Yes; meet with a lawyer. They can help get the lease correct so they can defend it if you ever need it.

6) I don't use clauses for profitability. Lost keys is standard stuff that you always charge for.

 thank you for the advice. i called and touched base with a lawyer

Post: New Landlord, Advice Appreciated

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

So I am a new landlord and will be leasing my first buy and hold property.  I will be renting in NJ and have done some research on renting in the state.

My plan is to get my lease off of ezlandlordforms.com.  I also plan to use the notices off this site because it sames easy and state specific.  I also plan to use the following addendums:

- receipt of keys
- zero tolerance for criminal activity
- early termination of tenancy addendum (2 months break-lease fee)
- tenant guest policy
- no smoking addendum
- tenant waiver of insurance (if they don't have any)

1. Does anyone know where to find or use a "deposit to hold form"?

2. I have read the NJ "Truth in Renting" guide that outlines landlord and tenant laws.  Is there any other required reading?

3. Dumb question: When I am meeting with tenant to sign the lease, do I have them sign two separate leases and have them keep one? I'm guessing I would have to take this approach with each addendum?

4. In the "How to Rent Your House" sticky in this forum it states that you should get the deposit from the tenant once the they have got accepted (through smartmove) but before you meet them to sign the lease?  What is the best way to collect this deposit before we meet to sign the lease?

5. Any value in meeting an attorney before I start leasing?  I would really like to bypass this expense if I can.  But if so, what type of value do they offer initially?

6.  Any other clauses that I can use to boost profitability? Ex: charging tenants if they lose their keys

I think that pretty much all my questions, thank you!

Post: Holding Fee?

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Make sure you screen them and they qualify.  

Them make them put down a non-refundable deposit, that will be applied to the move in fees.  At least $250.  Something that will make them think before changing their minds.  If you make the deposit small, then they may just find another place and never let you know. 

But make sure you do a credit check on them and don't take a check.  Always accept money orders because they can always cancel a check.

 I like the idea of the holding fee, thanks for the input!

Post: Holding Fee?

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Susan M.:

I have held places for the right tenants, and use a "hold fee" (do not use the word "deposit" as deposits are refundable) and hold fee agreement for these situations.  My Hold Fee Agreement basically states that both parties agree that the unit will be taken off the market for this applicant in exchange for the hold fee.  If the applicant defaults, I keep the fee due to my lost ability to rent the place during the time I've held it for them.  If I default, they get their money back.

If they fulfill all rental requirements (pay me all money due, get utilities transferred, sign the lease , etc) then their hold fee converts to their security deposit.

I know many landlords that absolutely refuse to hold places for people and maybe in some markets you can get away with that, but in my market most people shop for a new place a month in advance, so if you don't hold the place at least a couple of weeks you're not going to get any tenants.  I've heard of other landlords whose policy is "until you sign a lease and pay the place is not yours".  If you can get away with that, great.  I can't.  That basically means you have a tenant paying for their current place and your place during overlapping weeks.  No one in my area would agree to that but apparently in hot markets you can get away with it.

 I believe that in my case holding it for a fee might be the best option.  Where do I find such an agreement?

Post: Holding Fee?

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Larry Turowski:

@Rob Randle I agree with @Account Closed .  My only concern is "if everything goes on schedule."  In other words, you may not be able to deliver on Jan 1.  

I've run into so many difficulties closing on properties, that I never assume I'll close on time.  You may want to express to the prospective tenants that you expect the property to be available, but sometimes things are out of your control and if for some reason it is not available on time, their deposit will be refundable.  And that you'll give them an update mid-December if for any reason it looks like it may be a problem.

Also, if this is your first rental, you may want to keep running your ad, partly just for your own education--see what kind of interest you generate--and you can tell interested parties that someone has made a deposit, but sometimes people back out.  They can be second in line.

 Thanks for the input.  I plan to keep running it to get the largest pool of tenants possible.

Lets say everything works out perfectly and I am able to rent Jan 1st.  This obviously isn't the best time to end a lease.  I was thinking of doing a 6 month lease and once July comes around make them sign another year lease.  Another option I guess is to have them sign a longer lease at a discount.  How do you typically handle this situation?

Post: Holding Fee?

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Elizabeth Colegrove:

If the unit is popular and I am looking far enough out. I do not allow holds and require people to start paying rent on the day it is available. I have had many people be willing to pay to take the unit. I would be very careful about holding because I have had people walk away 2 days before they were suppose to move in. Luckily I had a break lease fee. 

 The problem with this is that I don't know when the unit will completely ready for the tenant.  This is due to the length of time for repairs and a closing date that could vary.  I like your idea of a break-lease fee.  What should a typical and reasonable break-lease fee be?

Post: Holding Fee?

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

Also, I have been advertising the unit on Craigslist.  That's how I have a prospective tenant already.