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All Forum Posts by: Rob Randle

Rob Randle has started 28 posts and replied 80 times.

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Bogdan Cirlig:

For me it all depends on the tax rate you are at vs your personal finances. Mortgage interest is pretty much the only personal tax "loophole" so to speak for W2 income earners. Since the US tax system is progressive, everyone wants to get down in the lower level of taxation, writing off that $50k or so per year will lower your AGI just enough so you won't get hit with AMT and lose those deductions just because you're considered "rich" at 250k per year :)

Second, it only makes sense if your mortgage + ownership costs (tax, insurance etc) are as close as possible (or lower) to your rent AND you bought in an area that you cross your fingers and hope it will appreciate significantly in next few years. Realize the fact that for first 10 years you will barely pay ANY principal back. That's one big gotcha most people don't realize, you are renting your home from.. "the bank" and you'd better stay in it or pray it appreciates, else it's an expensive rent. On average US families change houses every 7 years while getting 30 year mortgages, that's very expensive rent if your home didn't appreciate.

Regarding the 5% yes, you can, but expect the APR to bump up by 1% or so due to the increased risk plus that PMI added as well. However, gotta lose some to win some. You can remove PMI once the property appreciates so your loan becomes again 80% LTV.

 thanks for the response, you brought up some ideas that I didn't think about before

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

isn't 5% only for VA loans only?

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Elizabeth Colegrove:
Originally posted by @Rob Randle:

@Elizabeth Colegrove Interesting, yes I can see how that can be beneficial. I think a lot of it comes down to the down-payment for me. I would like to only have to put 5% down on a house. I can achieve that with a REO home, but typically its 20%. I guess the thought of sinking 20% into my primary residence pushes me away from owning. With renting I'm basically in for a security deposit. I'll keep on the look-out for REO where I can get in for cheap!

Rob if it is a "personal property" i.e. a house that you plan on living in for 12 months period (the time requirement). Than you can do a 5% conventional. Now if it is an investment that is totally different. I would NEVER put 20% in a personal property that defeats the purpose. When we ran out of first time home buy and VA loans, we did 5% conventional.

I didn't even realize that! I thought you have to put at least 20% down unless its an FHA, even if it is your personal property.

To be clear, I can put a 5% down on a conventional loan? This would make things a lot easier.

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Al Williamson:

@Rob Randle after many years as a homeowner, I've recently concluded that I want to be a renter. I think being a landlord that rents their residence is the new American Dream.

I'm a renter because:

1 - I own plenty of real estate an won't miss out on the upside of the market.

2 - I like redirecting cash towards vacations and creating memories.

3 - I love reducing my family's overhead expense and potential risks (water heater breaking, etc.)

4 - Renting gives us the flexibility to work in another country for a few years, one of my goals.

Now it you're just getting started, I'd wouldn't recommend this. I think house-hacking or converting a small SFH from residence to rental is the ninja move of choice.

Those are good reasons to rent.  It's interesting that you want to rent after being successful in real estate.  But given you goals, its the right choice.  Thanks for the feedback.

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

@Elizabeth Colegrove Interesting, yes I can see how that can be beneficial. I think a lot of it comes down to the down-payment for me. I would like to only have to put 5% down on a house. I can achieve that with a REO home, but typically its 20%. I guess the thought of sinking 20% into my primary residence pushes me away from owning. With renting I'm basically in for a security deposit. I'll keep on the look-out for REO where I can get in for cheap!

Post: Renting vs. Owning - Primary Residence

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

I am trying to way the pro's and con's of renting vs. owning.  I rent currently and do not think it as bad as some people think.  I'm looking for feedback and factors that I may be overlooking.  On the investing side I currently have one rental property and looking to acquire more.

Reasons why I currently prefer to rent:

1. I can afford to live in a higher end area at a lower cost.
2. I do not want to settle down.  Read somewhere that it does not make sense to sell your primary residence until you owned it for 5 years.
3. I don't have to pay for any maintenance costs.  This results in less risk and I am never taking large maintenance expenses.
4. I don't want to buy a primary residence without it being a "deal".
5. Where the "deals" are near me are not places where I typically want to live.
6. I can be agile, no commitment except the lease.
7. Primary residences are not typically factored in when calculating net worth.
8. Don't have to worry about depreciation of my primary residence.  This leads to stability and will keep my rental portfolio growing at a steady pace.

"House Hacking" and doing a live in flip interests me.  But I am interested in what other people have to say about this topic.

Post: First deal (Philadelphia)

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

@Jon Potter  congrats! what area of philadelphia did you find this deal?

Post: Buy and hold

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

Do you have some numbers to associate with your "great opportunity"?

Post: Negative Nellys

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12

Do not focus on the objection.  Focus all your energy on the goal and your path to achieve your dreams will be realized.

Take action.

Post: Tenants and Keys - System

Rob RandlePosted
  • Mount Laurel, NJ
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Kyle J.:

Why not just have the tenant call/pay for the locksmith to come out and open the door?  Doesn't seem like you should even need to be bothered with it.  I certainly wouldn't pay for this type of thing.

On another note, here's a tip to help avoid tenant lockouts....replace door handle locks with non-locking door handles so that the only way an entry door can be locked is with the use of the key in the deadbolt.  No way to lock yourself out with this setup.  That's what I did after the first time I had a tenant accidentally walk out of the house and close the locked door behind them with their keys still inside.  Since the change, it's never happened again.

 thats what I'm going to do, thanks