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All Forum Posts by: Reese Thompson

Reese Thompson has started 8 posts and replied 77 times.

Post: Flawless Credit Report, Bad Credit Score?

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

Thanks, guys.  We were pretty nervous and very confused! 

Post: Flawless Credit Report, Bad Credit Score?

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

Update:  I called back our banker and we found out that they used the wrong social security number for my wife.  It was unfortunately someone else's with a poor score, and my wife's was actually right around what we thought it should be instead of 200 points lower.  So, I guess the lesson here is trust but verify.

Post: Flawless Credit Report, Bad Credit Score?

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

I think I'm not explaining something right here.  It's not a matter of credit utilization or length of history, and getting more scores is not going to solve my problem.

So let me ask this instead:  How is it possible for a credit bureau to say the reason for your low score is frequent delinquent payments when you have never had any delinquent payments and that same credit bureau's full report confirms no delinquent payments?

Post: Flawless Credit Report, Bad Credit Score?

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

There is not enough information to make a judgement.  Everything can be listed as "ok" and you can still have a bad credit score. High credit utilization ratios can tank a score.

I would go purchase all 3 of her Fico scores at MyFico.com (This is the only place you can get Fico Scores) and see what you can garner from that.

We just received her score in the mail from when the bank ran it which is what brought this all up.  Her credit utilization is 0.  She has a credit card in her name, but we use the ones under my name.  The only other forms of credit she has are her car and student loans. 

But none of this still explains the many and frequent delinquent payments reason that the score said because the report from the same bureau shows absolutely nothing past due.

Post: Flawless Credit Report, Bad Credit Score?

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

My wife and I are in the process of opening a HELOC on our personal residence. The banker said that my wife's credit score was terrible, so she put it in my name only. At first I thought, "No big deal." Then we received our copies of our credit scores in the mail and we were shocked to see her score 200 points lower than what we knew it to be just a few months ago. Under the causes section, it said that she had many and frequent delinquent payments. We immediately called everything that had a form of credit in her name to see if they are reporting delinquent payments, and we are paid ahead on all of them. So we pulled her credit report from the same bureau that the bank had used, and it is flawless. Everything on there shows as "OK" with the exception of one item that says "Unknown." The letter from the bank had her name misspelled, so I asked the banker if she put it in right. She said that she had used my wife's SSN to run the score check, so everything was right on her end.

What in the world do we do?!?

Post: 4-plex Offer

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Chris Soignier:

How many days has it been on the market, and what's the avg. DOM of similar properties? What's the CoC return % at asking price and your offer? How reasonable is the seller's asking price? Are there are competing offers?

Low-balling can get you a great deal, but it can also piss off the seller and exclude any further negotiations from consideration.

I don't know your market, but I doubt it's only worth the same as it was 10 years ago unless they've done little to no maintenance and let the tenants tear it up.

If you really want to buy, I'd suggest an alternate strategy might be to offer a higher price that brings them to the negotiating table.    You can always re-negotiate it down (or walk away) during your option period should any negative findings pop up in due diligence.

It's been on the market for 45 days, and every other property has been on from 52 to 190 days (excluding one for over 600). CoC at asking is 9%, and it's 12% at our offer. If this were rented at market, CoC would be closer to 20% at our offer and 15% at asking. For us, 12% is acceptable, but we can't do 9%. No other offers currently, but I know there are other people looking. That's an interesting strategy to start higher, and I'm wondering if it might make them angry by us lowering our price? Thoughts?

Post: 4-plex Offer

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Kathy Henley:

The agent may know the neighborhood and the the trends, but you know your criteria. If the agent doesn't understand your offer and support your goals, try a different agent; one who is also an investor. Did you find its value by estimating the repairs, knowing the market rents and your finance costs? The same price as 10 years ago? Is it a coincidence? 

We used a combination of expected repairs (furnace is on its last leg and the parking lot needs redone) and where the rents are relative to the market rents (rents have been raised, but they are far below market) along with the returns we're wanting to see.  The price that we ended up at being the same as sellers purchase price is coincidental.  

Post: 4-plex Offer

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

Thanks.  I will add that we didn't offer 80% of asking just to make it 80%.  We are comfortable to a number higher, but where we want it to be at works out to 80%.  

There are quite a few multi-plexes in the area, but not many on the MLS, and only 2 have sold in the previous year.

Post: 4-plex Offer

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

My partner and I are in the process of putting an offer in on a 4-plex.  Our agent wasn't too happy with what we wanted to offer, but we thought it was a good place to start.  We offered about 80% of the asking price which is the same as what the seller paid 10 years ago.  Our agent is worried that we're low-balling it and may not get a good response from the seller.  What are some of your strategies on how you begin offers for 4-plexes?  

I apologize for the lack of details because I don't want to put too much information out there while we're trying to purchase.

Post: Outside Wall Closet Insulation

Reese ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • New Waterford, OH
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 14

Thank you both, good info!  It is a relatively large closet at about 16x4, but it is not a walk-in type and is unheated.  

I'm in agreement on using the drywall to have a substrate, and that's only because it seems like the right thing to do.  Would you happen to know a little more technically what having it vs not helps to do?