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All Forum Posts by: Andrey Y.

Andrey Y. has started 114 posts and replied 1827 times.

Post: Why I love being a Passive Investor in Syndications (30% IRR!!)

Andrey Y.Posted
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Originally posted by @Duke Giordano:

They key here is DIVERSIFICATION.  Nobody truly knows which way the Fed or the wind will blow.  Not us, and not the economists as it is all truly a guessing game.  Granted, there are degrees to the education level of the guess, but they are all still a guess.  There are things that arise that no one can predict such as COVID, and this is a clear example that looking back will never give us the clarity or the insight we think looking forward.  As investors, we can only control what we can control.

As passive investors, we need to vet the Sponsor, Market and the Deal and in that order.  We then try to form a well diversified portfolio across sponsors, asset class, geography, risk profile etc.  Based on ones financial wherewithal this can be accomplished combining funds vs multiple individual syndication deals or both.  Each approach with its own pros and cons to consider.

Bottom line, we have to decide for ourselves if we want real estate as a part of our overall portfolio, and in what capacity.  Accept that this asset class, as any, involves risk and do what we can to mitigate those risks through what we can control.  The rest is conjecture...

 Very well said. Lately, I have my core sponsors but have expanded more and more into so called "recession resistant" asset classes within the real estate niche. Also, not afraid to not go back to a sponsor after they have not delivered or had some other issue with the first deal I partnered with them on.

My strategy going forward is to continue to fund 4-6 deals a year. Will completely be done with a W-2 job by 2023 but will consider practicing for 1-3 months per year to maintain skills and CME. This will enable me to double NW every 7-8 years which is very attainable and realistic.

The next logical plan going forward would be funding overfunded whole life policies and expand to lifestyle/investment properties overseas which serve many functions at once.

Post: Why I love being a Passive Investor in Syndications (30% IRR!!)

Andrey Y.Posted
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Originally posted by @Daniel Han:

@Andrey Y.  One could argue that all this money printing will eventually lead to very high inflation and FED's only option will be raising the interest rate. I wonder what would happen to passive investments when the interest rates sharply increase. How many syndications with interest-only loans will start failing?

As I invest more in passive deals, I have been thinking about the risks more and more.

Out of all your deals so far, what's the percentage of deals that you lost your investment? was there any total loss?

for passive syndication deals, in what case would you lose capital? and what circumstances will there be total loss of capital?

Other than outright fraud, how easy is it for seasoned sponsors to start losing investor capital?

 I've been in 20+ passive opportunities to date. 5-6 exits. 0 money lost. Zero negative return. Zero total loss. No capital calls.

Maybe it was just luck. Or maybe I'm pretty decent at vetting sponsors and passing on deals. I'll admit I did a funded a few deals in the early days that I wouldn't jump on today.

I fully expend to have 1 or 2 lose money once I'm at the 50-75 passive opportunities invested.

How about you? What has been your experience?

Post: Why I love being a Passive Investor in Syndications (30% IRR!!)

Andrey Y.Posted
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Originally posted by @Chris Levarek:

@Andrey Y. That's great news! Of course, we have been on a bull run for a while here. So from 2017-2020 would be some great returns. It will be interesting to see how many syndicators actually hit those high IRR's on current deals with the upcoming economy transitions. Everyone looks great when the tide is high :)

However, given all that is going on in the economy. Real estate or these type of investments are a great place for capital with today's dollars. They provide great returns, are easier to understand and represent a tangible (see it/touch it) asset with nice tax benefits.

For those interested in investing with syndication groups. Consider reading "The Hands-off Investor" by Brian Burke. Some great recommendations for vetting a sponsor, the real estate deal and overall business model. Credibility, honesty and alignment of interest are also some valuable criteria when selecting a syndicator.

Now that we are more than 1 year after this point.  Let's talk about the 'upcoming economy transition'.

Right now, investing in private placement syndications makes even more sense than ever. 1/3 of the dollars every created were willed into existence over the last 1.5 years, and with the cervesa sickness policies enacted, this is driving the dream of homeownership more and more unaffordable.

We are going to see record rental demand going forward with huge housing unit shortages in many markets.

Both passive investment in syndications and buying SFHs can fit this role, but owning rentals suffers from all the issues I outlined in my first posts.

I'm usually funding 4-6 deals a year, and even with this cash position in portfolio is getting uncomfortably high. A good problem to have! (maybe)

Post: $40K tax bill seems off

Andrey Y.Posted
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Originally posted by @Michael Plante:

Very confused what you actually have to declare


bottom line how much income from ALL sources for the year?

 Why is this relevant? If my top tax bracket is say 24%, then I am paying 24c on the last dollars of my W-2. However, disposal of a real estate asset should result in long term capital gains tax of 15%. So why is my day job income being lumped in with my passive and active real estate capital gain? That is what doesn't make sense.

Post: $40K tax bill seems off

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Post: $40K tax bill seems off

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My question is, selling real estate assets that you've held for more than 1 year should result in a long term capital gains tax rate of 15%.

The math isn't adding up. Even if I had ZERO passive lose carryforwards, the tax bill cannot be $40K on a $100K gain on a property and a single syndication exit. And I definitely have had passive carryforwards.

Thoughts on this guys? I have also been looking for a new CPA for 2020 (extension was filed), so would love your thoughts and I think if a professional looks at this tax return draft they may find it's not correct.

Post: $40K tax bill seems off

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I just got a draft from a CPA, that I need to write a check of $40K for taxes.

I have in my email where he said even if I don't do a 1031 exchange, my capital gains will be offset by passive carryforwards. I've had issues with this particular CPA taking 3-4 weeks to respond to emails and generally giving off the cuff, not researched, and flat out wrong tax planning advice.

Anyway, I had a partially failed exchange (Realty Doctors promised they have NEVER missed a clients exchange, and lo and behold their builder couldn't build the 2nd property in time).

My only gains are a $102K undeferred gain on the property I sold, and a single K-1 syndication exit where I invested $50K and got a $30K profit.

When I look at the draft return, my capital gains from the sale of my home are being added to my AGI and I'm having to pay ordinary income taxes on sale of a long term capital gains asset. That seems very off to me.

Post: How I make $1875/mo. cash flow on a rental I have $0 in.

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I've been managing my rentals remotely but honestly could have paid more attention to them. As mortgage rates were falling, I decided to do another refi in 2021. Main motivation was to get out of the crooks that are Wells Fargo. This actually took almost 8 months (the first lender couldn't deliver), then the 2nd lender did the refi in under 14 days from start to finish (go figure). 

Now, my interest rate is 2.375% and my PITI monthly is just over $1000. HOA fees are $750. CapEx have been 0% (HOA fees cover this), and repairs have been minimal (<1%o of gross rents), due to this being a remodeled condo.

Today, my today gross rents are $3150 - for a 'cash flow' of about $1450. I have $0 in this property, so its an infinite return in a sense. This is more of a fun property and I only consider my syndications income as what I can live off of.

The moral of the story. Always be positive and energetic, and don't take this stuff too seriously.

Don't "wait until the market crashes next year, then buy in". It won't. That mentality will make you poor while others who took BOLD action will pass you buy. Happy to discuss real estate any time.

Post: How I make $1875/mo. cash flow on a rental I have $0 in.

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Its important to mention that the HOA fees were initially $375, which was incredibly low for the area. This eventually ballooned to $750, the amount that it is today. About normal for the area. Around 2016, I started renting out both units separately - the 1BR for $1700 - 1950, and the studio for $800 - 1200. This depended on market conditions and whether or not there were pets.

Keep in mind I was always at least 4-6000 miles away. Living all around to include Asia. In 2017 I basically started investing heavily into passive syndications. I didn't buy any additional rentals - except for 1 sold 1 older unit on Hawaii and exchanged it for a new construction rental on FL. Besides that, it was all diversifying into K-1 passive investments.

As a semi-busy professional, most of us eventually get tired of being a landlord. Even if you told me I can make a 50% IRR on my rentals, I would still take my 15-20% IRR as a passive investor. All day long.

Post: How I make $1875/mo. cash flow on a rental I have $0 in.

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In 2011 I bought my first ever property, in Honolulu. I used a VA loan and put about 12-15% down (didn't have to). Initially, I lived in the 1BR and then I realized that the separate entrance small bedroom and bath wasn't really used. I began to rent this space as my first ever foray into being a landlord. A nice $750 per month.

I believe my first loan was in the high 3s %. Fast forward five years or so, I performed a couple cash out refi's which pulled $60K in cash out of the property. It was at this time that I also moved out of the 1BR.