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All Forum Posts by: Mike Nuss

Mike Nuss has started 80 posts and replied 430 times.

Post: RareBird Master Class: Profiting with Private Placements

Mike Nuss
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  • Portland, OR
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Join the RareBird Investor Network on Thursday, May 30 at 9 AM for our master class, Profiting with Private Placements: Understanding the Opportunity for Passive Income. Ryan Pettitt of Prosperity Aid will discuss syndication and their opportunity for passive income. This master class will cover…

  • Why syndication?- Reasons for establishing an active syndication company and why investors would invest passively.
  • How syndication can be structured
  • The different types of investors
  • Examples of how cash flow could be split with investors
  • And more!

CE Certificates are available for licensed attendees.

Space is limited, so please RSVP using the link here: http://rarebirdinvestors.com/masterclass/

Our Master Classes are designed as deep-dive educational opportunities for our RareBird Investor Network Members!

New to the Investor Network? Come and check out a meeting, your first time is always FREE! OR Join Here: https://rarebirdinvestors.com/join/

Post: RareBird Master Class: The New Face of Hard Money

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  • Portland, OR
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Join the RareBird Investor Network on Thursday, May 16 at 9 AM for our master class, They Won’t Break Your Legs – The New Face of Hard Money. Bob Thomas, Vice President at Merchants Mortgage will share his expert knowledge on using hard money for real estate investments. Bob will discuss the following:

1. Common mistakes that investors wanting to use hard money make

2. Deal killers when using hard money

3. Top ways to structure your deals to get the best hard money rate

From residential fix-and-flips to ground up commercial construction, Merchants Mortgage provides the financing for your real estate deals! Contact Bob Thomas at 619-309-8973 or [email protected].

CE Certificates are available for licensed attendees.

Space is limited, so please RSVP using the link here: http://rarebirdinvestors.com/masterclass/

Our Master Classes are designed as deep-dive educational opportunities for our RareBird Investor Network Members!

New to the Investor Network? Come and check out a meeting, your first time is always FREE! OR Join Here: https://rarebirdinvestors.com/join/

Post: Could a Single Family BRRR Work in Southwest Portland

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  • Portland, OR
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@Michael McCullough pay close attention to property taxes. You're probably looking at $400-$600 per month just in property taxes if you're close to Lewis and Clark. You don't have to be that close, but Oregon's funky tax laws hurt rentals in SW Portland....that's the main reason 100% of my rentals are on the east side. It's just tough to pencil when taxes are $200+ more per month on the west side for the same type of rents you get on the east side. It can be done though. We found a client of ours a great duplex investment as an off market sale. Taxes are 9K a year, crazy high, but the numbers work because the correct offer was made with those property taxes in mind ahead of time. 

Also, yes you should find and meet people in all of those trades mentioned. Your success will directly correlate to the quality of individuals you meet in those trades. If you want to meet some people, there will be 100+ people from the Portland Real Estate community Thursday night at The Evergreen in SE Portland from 6ish to 10ish. Great place to meet the people that will help you achieve your goal. 

Post: Senate Bill 608 - Oregon

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@Angela Clark ask for answers and you shall receive......remember though I am not an attorney so this is the best advice I can give without saying "consult with an attorney"; although you may see that answer below. :)

Thanks for the question and answers so far......my pleasure!

What we haven't been able to sort out is this...if the land lord wants to sell the house, they cannot give 90 days notice simply to list the house for sale as far as we can tell. Maybe they could give 90 days notice to renovate before they sell???? If yes - how extensive renovation (e.g. carpet and paint throughout entire house?)? How long after renovations is it o.k. to list the house for sale without violating the law?.......correct, if there is no plan to use or ability to use one of the 4 exemptions, the owner cannot give a no cause termination notice prior to listing. If they wanted to renovate and use the "unsafe or unfit for housing" exemption, then that can be done. The problem there is "unsafe or unfit" are not well defined so I would consult with an attorney before using that exemption. I personally will not be using that exemption for any of my investments until I see case law established for it. 

In the case where the house is listed and sold with the tenants remaining, there seems to be some wording about whether or not the new owner plans to live in the house? If the new owner is going to live in the house - when is the 90 day notice in effect; the day the house is listed because it MIGHT be sold to someone in 90 days that might want to live in the house or is it 90 days from accepted offer of someone that plans to live in the house?........this is where strategy comes into play. yes, there is an exemption if the buyer is will be an owner occupant. I wouldn't try to use this exemption for a 2+ unit property (due to the verbiage in the first sentence as it is more the condo conversion exemption), but it should be able to be used for a single family without a problem (I advise consulting an attorney though before using it). The 90 days would be based on the notice date. Again, you would not give this notice before you have an offer in hand as there would be no way to know that you do have a buyer that is going to owner occupy. Then strategy of when you give that notice comes into play. I, as a seller, would not be willing to give this notice until the buyer has removed every single contingency, including appraisal and finance contingency. I would take it a step further and make them increase their earnest money and release their earnest money to me. I would want earnest money to be atleset 3 times one month's rent plus attorneys fee. as you'll need that to cover losses in the event that the sale fails, the tenant sues and you now have to defend yourself. 

If the buyer intends to make it a long term rental - are they bound to the prior tenants and the current rental rate or can they raise the rent beyond the rent control because it's a new agreement between new owner and old tenant?......no rent raise beyond the rent caps in this scenario. Their tenancy is their tenancy a new owner does not create a new tenancy, only a new tenant creates a new tenancy. 

The realtors we are talking to are still trying to understand it all. @Mike Nuss do you have any input to these questions/circumstances surrounding selling the property - or could you refer us to a good resource to talk through a lot of these specifics around selling a rental property?........the go to landlord attorney in Oregon, in my opinion, is Jeff Bennet with Warren Allen LLP. We work with his apprentice (for lack of a better term) Brad Kraus. He's a pitbull and knows this stuff inside and out. 

Post: Profiting in the Short Term Rental Space

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I really hope people don't start "paying more" with the plan to airbnb. The value of an airbnb does not go to the real estate. Value goes to the operation of a short term business. Sure, you may get 100% or more  per month in gross rents, but you also see a serious increase in expenses. Management fees range from 15-35%. All utility expenses are born by the owner, furniture is costly (at least if you want a high occupancy rate) and short term tenants cause more damage than long term in my experience. Don't get me wrong, the right property, with the right location and the right amenities can make this a good venture. I've spent 100K converting a 4plex to a hotel just to lock in the long term potential of this business model, but that's solely because that specific building fills a specific niche. The short term rental market is always evolving with many issues outside your control. Other platforms, over supply, changing laws. There is so much out of your control that the purchase of a property should still be based on the basis of a long term tenant cash flow. Short term rental operation should be a bonus. Making it a requirement for financial feasibility can be very dangerous in my opinion. 

Post: Senate Bill 608 - Oregon

Mike Nuss
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@Glenn Hermans the OAR summary is pretty close to being accurate. Here is where the summary is not fully accurate. 

- exemption on sale to an owner occupant. The verbiage here was tailored for condo conversions. The specific verbiage is unclear for an owner occupant buying a multi family home as it states ":(A) Accepted an offer to purchase the dwelling unit separately from any other dwelling unit from a person who intends in good faith to occupy" So "separately from any other dwelling unit" would exclude owner occs for say like a 2-4 unit purchase and it's unclear for owner occ purchasers of single family. I've been giving broker classes on the topic and tell them to refer to an attorney if they want to advise their client to use this exemption because the language is vague. 

- exemption for removal of a unit from residential use....this also qualifies for demo. So you can terminate tenancy of a residential building, demo that building and build a new residential use. Just wanted to clarify that. 

- fixed term tenancies do not have to roll to month to month. After the first year of occupancy, the tenancy can only be terminated for cause. However; an expiring lease can be extended or renewed as long as the landlord gives adequate notice and completes the necessary paperwork with a tenant. Otherwise it will roll to a month to month, but it doesn't have to roll to a month to month. 

- raising rents between tenancies. There is only one scenario where there will be a rent raise cap between tenancies. That's for a 30 day no cause termination, which can only be given for month to month tenants within their first year of tenancy. So you can for cause terminate tenancy and then bring rents to market for the subsequent tenant. You do not have to have a voluntary tenant move out to avoid a rent raise cap in between tenants. 

As @Jay Hinrichs many investors will just deal with it. Many ma and pa will start hiring property managers even though they didn't in the past. Many investors will just sell and exit the Oregon market. Portland investors are a little different, they're looking at the state bill and saying "phew, I'm glad Portland's leadership didn't get what they want" as Portland leaders want a much more strict policy than what was passed. 

I know this in and out so don't hesitate to ask any more questions. I'll be happy to do my best to provide good insight. 

good luck!

Post: Thoughts on RE Syndication or tenants, termites and toilets?

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@Todd Powell that’s awesome. I’d ask him how they underwrite the deals and if they have some sort of scoring system or experience underwriting for the GPS. 

Post: Investing outside of Portland OR?

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@Arie Van Gemeren

I agree with @Jay Hinrichs. The cities you mentioned are part of metro....not the boonies.

Portland metro saw similar trends as the Bay Area you just mentioned. However, that type of reaction (outer areas seeing sharper declines) had more to do with the areas having more cookie cutter subdivisions and available land than anything. The core just doesn’t have enough land so there will always be a tilt toward under supply than an outlying market.

There are pros and cons to any area in the Pdx Metro market. $/unit are lower the further from the core you go, but rents are lower as well. We are seeing a trend we’re competition (demand) is heating up outside the core while options (supply) are increasing in the core. Supply/demand and effective purchasing power are what I look at for location trends in our area.

Management is extremely important as well. Property management in Portland will get tougher and tougher as long as Chloe Eudaly is on the city council.

I’m happy to chat more specific details if you’d like.

Post: Thoughts on RE Syndication or tenants, termites and toilets?

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@Todd Powell I have no real opinion. I just wanted to mention though that crowd street is a platform, not a sponsor. Investing in syndication is all about the general partner and their ability to succeed. Crowdstreet just connects the LP to the Gp. Be sure to get the GP best you can.

Post: Portland, OR rental market - Am I naive?

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@Josh Gardner your success in finding casfhlow in Portland will directly correlate to the effort you put in on finding an off market purchase. I've built a significant portfolio (85+ units) in Portland within 7 years time, all purchased off market. 

If you just look at on market properties, the likelihood you find something that makes sense is low. The new rent control laws actually offer a lot of opportunity right now. I hardly bought anything last year (3 rental units), but am already on a pace for record # of units this year. It's all about the effort and recognizing opportunity. 

@Jay Hinrichs the 1-4 unit exemption in the Oregon rent control bill is solely an exemption of paying one month relo fee (if you use an approved reason to no cause terminate). It does not exempt those owners from rent caps. The new law is nuanced to say the least, but it definitely aint no LA/San Fran rent control policy.