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All Forum Posts by: Rachel Zelaya

Rachel Zelaya has started 4 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Dan Barrett - Adwords Nerds REI Marketing

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

I gave them $7500 to get our campaigns started, after months of back and forth the campaigns never started. I asked for my monthly back and for 6 months they tell me "sorry no refund". THEY NEVER PERFORMED SERVICES!!! THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW AND OUR AGREEMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY DONT GET PAID UNTIL THEY RUN CAMPAIGNS. 

@DAN BARRETT MAKE THIS RIGHT AND ISSUE MY REFUND PLEASE. I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK THAT YOU STOLE

Post: Adword Nerds Dan Barrett ... Review?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

DONT WORK WITH THEM. I gave them $7500 to get our campaigns started, after months of back and forth the campaigns never started. I asked for my monthly back and for 6 months they tell me "sorry no refund". THEY NEVER PERFORMED SERVICES!!! THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW AND OUR AGREEMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY DONT GET PAID UNTIL THEY RUN CAMPAIGNS.

@DAN BARRETT MAKE THIS RIGHT AND ISSUE MY REFUND PLEASE. I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK THAT YOU STOLE

Post: Should I Sign-Up For Adwords Nerds?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Dan Barrett:

Hello everyone in this thread! @Brian Deer @Jerryll Noorden

Apologies for my late reply. I wasn’t tagged, so I didn’t get a notification.

I do not typically directly reply to comments like this - People are allowed to have their opinions without me butting in. But since Jerryll has specifically asked me to reply...

First of all - we DID actually hang up on Jerryll. In fact, I went further, and asked our team to no longer allow him on client calls. (Jerrylll is not our client, but since he referred this client to us and wanted to be involved, he was given this privilege).

Why?

Because he was rude, talked over my employee, and didn’t listen to anything we said.

I will never, for any amount of money, allow my team to take personal abuse.

Secondly, I would note that though Jerryll says above that we "know nothing about SEO" and are "winging it," we are not doing SEO for his clients, but PPC (paid ads). He knows the difference, so perhaps this was a simple mistake.

By “winging it,” Jerryll seems to be referring to the fact that we split-test multiple pages and ads for every client in order to find what performs best. If this is, in fact, what he means, then yes - we do hundreds of multivariate tests a month. This is an industry best-practice and a huge reason for our long term success. I am happy to dig deeper into this if it’s valuable to anyone.

Third, I feel absolutely no need to defend our performance. We've been in business for close to a decade. We have helped HUNDREDS of investors. Our retention rate from our initial program to month to month services is 80% (meaning, 80% of our clients CHOOSE to continue working with us past their initial contract).

Does that mean we always succeed? No. I am incredibly open to EVERYONE about the realities of this type of marketing and the risks involved.

Anyone who tells you they ALWAYS succeed is either inexperienced, or trying to sell you something.

I am 100% willing to anonymize and share this client’s performance data, a complete list of changes made by our team, search terms that generated clicks, screenshots of landing pages run, and a transcript or recording of all client calls, so people on BP can judge for themselves.

I want to respect everyone’s privacy, so I’ll let Jerryll make the final call on that.

Jerryll, if you’d like to have a respectful conversation about client performance and how we can hash it out, my door is always open. I have great respect for what you've accomplished and would love to be able to use your feedback constructively.

Since I am too busy to guarantee I will see any given post on BP, you could always email our client help email and request to talk to me. I’ll shoot you my cell and we can discuss (if you can, try texting me first, so I know you’re not one of the five million robo calls I receive each day!)

I'm not typically on here, so to anyone else who has questions, wants more information, or just wants to say hi, you can reach me at our website (wanted to post my email, but that's not allowed). Feel free to reach out as well if you'd like me to pop back into this thread, but don't think I've seen the notification.

Dan

Dan if you had any proper business integrity you would iss the refund for work you did not perform for us.

I gave them $7500 to get our campaigns started, after months of back and forth the campaigns never started. I asked for my monthly back and for 6 months they tell me "sorry no refund". THEY NEVER PERFORMED SERVICES!!! THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW AND OUR AGREEMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY DONT GET PAID UNTIL THEY RUN CAMPAIGNS.

@DAN BARRETT MAKE THIS RIGHT AND ISSUE MY REFUND PLEASE. I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK THAT YOU STOLE

Post: Beginner, Experimentation, and Future Reviews! + Adwords Nerds

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Dan Barrett:

@Matthew R. Sorry you feel that way, but glad you got some value out of the course!

Just a heads up - all videos from the course and calls are posted, so if you missed any, or if there was a technical mix up, reach out in the FB group and let me know. I want to make sure you get access to everything you paid for.

DAN HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE MY MONEY BACK FOR THE WORK YOU DID NOT DO. DO THE RIGHT THING HERE 

Post: Beginner, Experimentation, and Future Reviews! + Adwords Nerds

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Dan Barrett:

Hey Matthew,

I very much appreciate the review of your call with Lou.

I want you to know - you can reach out to me any time, directly - whether on FB, Bigger Pockets, or elsewhere - if you ever want to talk. I'm here to make sure you have an amazing experience, and if for any reason we don't live up to your expectations, I want to know about it.

Cheers.


Dan (from adwords nerds)

This guy and his company has absolutely no integrity. Do Not work with them! They took my deposit  to start work, they never did any marketing campaigns. I asked for my money back and now they refuse. THEIFS!

I gave them $7500 to get our campaigns started, after months of back and forth the campaigns never started. I asked for my monthly back and for 6 months they tell me "sorry no refund". THEY NEVER PERFORMED SERVICES!!! THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW AND OUR AGREEMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY DONT GET PAID UNTIL THEY RUN CAMPAIGNS.

@DAN BARRETT MAKE THIS RIGHT AND ISSUE MY REFUND PLEASE. I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK THAT YOU STOLE

Post: Should I Sign-Up For Adwords Nerds?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

I signed up with Adwords nerds and @Dan Barrett at the end of 2018...gave them $7500 to get started. This never got off the ground, we never started any campaigns and they did not do any work. Months ago I started asking for a refund because I just couldn't do everything they were asking of me and knew it would be a waste if I wasn't committed. Now they are saying that because they "set up my account" that I am entitled to $0 refund...THEY DIDNT PERFORM ANY SERVICES!!!! , send us a refund please. to be clear, there were no ads run, no work done at all!

Post: What’s a Fair Wholesale Fee Cut for Inside Sales?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

What do you all think is a fair commission cut of a wholesale fee for an inside sales agent that: contacts the leads (i provide the lead), sets appointment, goes on appointment and communicates our offer to the seller, does everything he can to get them to a “yes” and then the back office sends out the contract and takes over the closing and marketing to find a buyer from there

I pay for the marketing and advertising to get the leads, i run all comps and numbers and provide the offer price to make, i write up the contract and send to seller, and handle all of the marketing and communications with Buyers

Any advice is helpful! I want to pay him fairly, i think it should be a percentage of the fee since the amounts vary drastically for us ($5k-80k)

Post: Funding Down Payments to Scale?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Theo Hicks this is awesome and exactly the help I was looking for. We just need to put together a nice “track record” portfolio and showing some folks we know. The educational newsletters make sense since I was worried about SEC/direct marketing to people about investments. Appreciate the help!

Post: Funding Down Payments to Scale?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Russell Brazil yes we do but not paid off, so either that debtors would be a 2nd mortgage or we just cash-out refi. I was hoping to avoid this option or leave as a last resort if possible

Post: Funding Down Payments to Scale?

Rachel ZelayaPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Michael Ablan thank you. Yes syndication is what I was thinking for starting some sort of fund that would buy deals together, I guess the questions is...where do we start with that? Good job to you too!