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All Forum Posts by: Rachel Feng

Rachel Feng has started 7 posts and replied 22 times.

Hi, fellow MA investors! I just purchased a two-family in Watertown and plan to rent them out. I am trying to decide whether I want to allow pets or not. I have done a bit of single-family rentals and have always allowed pets, no breed restrictions. I personally found no issues with that. As a dog person myself, I hate to rule out pet owners as prospective renters. However, I am surprised to find that very very few rental properties in multi-family buildings allow pets, often times, at best some cats or small sized dogs. I was just wondering whether I miss something. I understand the risk of wear and tear, dog bites, and also potential complaints from other tenants if the dog barks excessively (up and down two-family). However, this risk also exists for single family, but you would see much more single family rentals allow pets. Is it just that the risks for two-family are greater, or is there any law that I am not aware of I need to take into account? Do you typically restrict size if you do allow dogs? Please shed some lights. Greatly appreciated!

Originally posted by @Dan K.:

The Commonwealth's Code versus Medford may differ. That's why it is very important to understand your zoning regulations.

Generally in Massachusetts 7' and 6" is the minimum ceiling height. However there are many caveats. You can view the code at: https://up.codes/viewer/massac...

Exceptions to the code are made regularly, but ceiling height is very important from both a safety perspective as well as livability, legal, resale, rentability perspective.

Thank you Dan. I just got a reply from the city and they were quoted as follows: 

"The minimum ceiling height required in a basement is 6 feet 8 inches. You will not find this on the City of Medford website because this is governed by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts State Building Code, and it is not a City Ordinance."

Originally posted by @Dan K.:

For the egress window installation you should be able to find a local company that does it all for a reasonable cost. I wouldn't go with a GC. If you already have a door to the outside through the basement as well as an entry to other stairs and door you should be okay.

Absolute cheapest heat to install is electric. You might want to go with a heat pump because it's less expensive to operate. Depending on use, you could even get away with an oil filled radiator heater that runs on 120 volts versus installing a 220 circuit.

The way I did it was to utilize my central gas boiler. We created a "wet loop" off of the boiler to give the basement its own zone with baseboards -- it wasn't expensive because I used a reasonable plumber and the finished basement is right next to the boiler.

Now having the space "legal" for Medford is another story. They will require an inspection, certificate of occupancy, etc. You also need to figure out if you can have the space by right -- research your allowable FAR and your property's zoning. If it's larger than a two-family you will need a GC. Having the space "legal," will allow you to use the square footage in a listing. 

 Thank you Dan! That was very helpful. Do you happen to know the minimum height requirement? I did some googling and found this document:

 https://www.mass.gov/files/doc...

quoted "ceiling heights in habitable basement, including drop ceilings, shall be a minimum of six feet eight inches". Is this the height standard to go by? 

Hi! I am thinking about doing some work in the basement in order to create extra sqft from basement. Right now the room is finished and it appears that the room has enough height. There is one exit (door) going out to the yard. It looks like I will need another bigger window for the second exit. I was wondering what's the ballpark number to make a bigger window in the picture attached. What kind of contractor will I need for this kind of project? GC? What is the cheapest option to install some sort of heating system in the basement that is separate from the house (e.g., electrical)? Any comments will be very much appreciated!

Originally posted by @Jimmy Lieu:
Originally posted by @Todd Wheatley:

Hi @Jeffrey Allen and congratulations on your journey to a househack! It’s an excellent strategy for the communities you mention due to their high costs.

My wife and I are currently househacking a 4-unit in Waltham and we used an FHA loan to keep our down payment low and allow for us to make significant capital improvements. Nick's advice above is spot on.

I also have relationships with a couple lenders that have been offering 5% down on owner occupied duplexes without PMI (first and second mortgage).

Lastly, you could explore seller financing if you come across the right property owner. Some owners are just tired of managing property but they would be happy to “hold the paper” for you and collect passive income. Down payment on an owner financing is whatever you’re able to negotiate with the owner.

I am real estate investor and MA licensed agent. I would be more than happy to connect and share ideas if you’re interested.

-Todd


Hi there! Lenders can give you 5% down without PMI? That is possible? I thought PMI is required for anything below 20!

Or would you say that it varies from lender to lender!

Thanks!

 

@Todd Wheatley 

@Jimmy Lieu

I think it should not be hard to find lenders that could waive PMI, if that is your goal. I know quicken loan PMI advantage allows you to waive PMI. However, I used to build mortgage/loan pricing/underwriting models, elimination of PMI definitely comes with a greater risk for lenders, which translates to higher interest rates, with everything else equal. A nice thing about PMI is you can have it eliminated once LTV of your mortgage is lower than 78%-80%. One could really consider PMI as another layer of interest to pay, but a temporary one.

However, if you choose a mortgage without PMI, you will carry that higher interest rate until you refi out of it. 
Another thing to pay attention is also the fee difference.

So I recommend really comparing the overall cost of the loan, taking into account how long you will hold this mortgage, rather than focusing on finding a loan without a PMI. 

Originally posted by @Brandon Goldsmith:

Columbus is currently a hot market and there are a lot of different variables that make it attractive for both locals and out-of-state investors. There are still plenty of good deals to be found and the for some people there is a lack of them but for others who know how to find them, there is always inventory. I agree with @Jonathan Styer that having the right team in place is essential for investing out of state. @Rachel Feng

 True, there are deals everywhere. But I'm wondering for someone who just ventured into a new out-of-state city, it's probably harder to find those deals. 

Originally posted by @Jonathan Styer:

Inventory here in Columbus is very low and you are correct, the proverbial "word" is out. That does not mean there are not deals here for both in and out of state investors. The most important factor still remains, having the right team in place finding and working those deals for you, and then taking care of the property once it is closed. 

If you have someone here in Columbus that you trust to help you in analysis and eyes on properties, you can do very well here. Regarding locals not snapping up deals, it's a free for all. If you have the right team it should not matter. 

You bring up interesting points and I appreciate you opening the discussion!

 Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for your reply. What I am confused was if locals do not see certain houses as a "deal", why would a out-of-state investor has a better take than that? In a hot market, good off-market deal should be really hard to come by. I'm surprised with the inventory of those "off-market" properties. I do noticed most of them seem to come from not so desirable areas. 

I am doing a lot of research on the Columbus, OH market recently and has gone through lots of old posts about this market. The thing that I like about Columbus the most is it is a growing city with a good university. However, I also have a few observations that I do not quite appreciate. I would love to hear from other investors on their takes as well. 

1. It seems to be quite crowded by investors in general, because the price point still looks very enticing for a lot of out-of-state investors (I'm from the Boston area.). Most of the two-family I looked at in those up-and-coming areas are just not well taken care of. A lot of properties are flipped for a quick profit, rather than for its long term values. It is hard to find a good quality turnkey rental. (For example, I wanted to avoid carpets, but most flipped places are with carpets.)

2. In my local market, it is rare to come across off-market deals these days. However, in a seemingly hot market like Columbus, there is not lack of off-market deals. My question is if locals would not snap up those properties, should out of state investors be cautious about those "deals"? 

3. It seems the investment thesis changes quickly at the street level. I wonder whether flying there and walking down neighborhoods myself before I decided to put in an offer is recommended. 

Originally posted by @Tom Wagner:
Originally posted by @Bob Ross:

@Tom Wagner

Tom, is it 3.5 FHA better than 20 percent down if you have it?

Better to keep cash reserves?

This is a difficult question to answer and there is not a one-size-fits-all "right" answer. In my opinion, 3.5% down FHA is better than 20% down (if allowed) because of how low interest rates are. I would rather buy a $600,000 house for $25,000 down (3.5%) and buy another investment property for $400,000 (20% down -> $80,000), than buy the same $600,000 house with 20% down ($120,000).

Alternatively, by opting for a 3.5% down FHA loan you could take the $95,000 difference between 3.5% down and 20% down, and invest that money in the stock market. This is risky of course, but over the long-haul I expect stock market returns to significantly outpace my ~3.3% interest note.

That said, there are some downsides to FHA. You have to may mortgage insurance (Google "FHA Mortgage Insurance Premium") for the life of the loan, which will cut into your cash flow. There is also the owner-occupancy requirement.

As with anything in life, there are tradeoffs!

Yes, fully agree with you. Even if you have to pay PMI, you can still think about it as extra interest rate to pay. Because of unbelievably low rate, current rate+PMI is basically similar to interest rate a year ago and still lower than previous years.

That said, I was actually planning to do 20% just because I feel a little stressed about seeing the high monthly payment if I have to have the property vacant during renovation period. I also do not want to be overly leveraged. However, I am still open to lower down like 10% to 15%, depending on the situation I guess. 

I agree with it being "best asset class" for the most part, but mortgage crisis induced recession is a still a recent memory. I would add that it does depend on where you invest and whether you have enough cash reserves for times when the property has to sit vacant. 
 

Originally posted by @George W.:

I'd probably hold off on trying a flip with zero experience. Save your money look for a buy and hold. Right now most decent contractors doing larger jobs are booked solid

Good point, for someone who does not have this kind of network, I probably will end up overpaying.