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All Forum Posts by: Quentin Thiery

Quentin Thiery has started 10 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Ethics Regarding Agents

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

@Quentin Thiery  One thing you might do is attend investor meetings, local REIAs or meetup groups vs pounding agents with questions.  Typically there are plenty of agents at these meetings and they're designed to network.   Plus you'll meet other people too.

If you find an agent you like and you're asking for a lot of their time and expertise, add them to your team, especially for that first transaction.   Don't be your own first client.  Real estate school gives you the bare basics, not the expertise you want on your side for your first transaction.   Let them walk you thru in and earn their commission.   Over and Over I see both people who just want to get their license to try to save the commission on their primary home, and also new investors who want to try to save/earn that commission and from what I see they are often their own worst enemies and rarely get the deal they're expecting.   They know just enough to be dangerous to themselves.  So don't be that guy.

Another idea is to have them walk you thru the transaction if you get your license and split the commission with them.  Pay them for their knowledge and expertise.  I appreciate your thoughtfulness.  Seems like lots of people are not doing free work any more, like contractors giving bids.  Several of my contractors charge for the bid, and give a credit if they get the job.  Too many times the good contractors give a bid, then that bid is used to go out and hire cheap contractors for less money.  Things like that.  Kind of like the plumber and electricians that now have minimum service call fees.  Many lawyers in my area also now doing the same.  No more free 30 minute initial consultation....up front fee of $300-$500/hour and maybe some kind of credit if you give them the case/work.   Appraisers do that now, collect the fee up front.   Some lenders want fees up front.   Realtors I don't see it yet, but maybe one day.   I see you are interior designer.....do you do any free work up front for clients?   If so, what kind of time limits or information will you give before giving up or wanting a fee.   Not really fair for me to spend a few hours of your time, get all your ideas and concepts, then dump you and go buy everything on my own. (Not like I could ever do that, as I have no design expertise and would mess it all up....it would never come out the way you envisioned....I'm sure there are people that try though.)

Best wishes on the house hack.....still a great way to get started.

@Bruce Lynn Thank you so much! I really appreciate all the insight; there is a bit of free consultation work in the design industry but its quite rare, almost anything needs to be paid for nowadays - like you said. Thanks again!

Post: Ethics Regarding Agents

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

@Ross Hair Thank you!

Post: Ethics Regarding Agents

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

Hi BP,

I am a new investor who is currently taking the RE license course in NY and looking to house hack my first property soon (getting the reserves up at the moment). I've been speaking to a couple of agents in the area i'm looking to invest in but before I really start to dive into questions for these agents, what is the "protocol" or maybe unsaid rule in the real estate community about how much you can ask a real estate agent before it's unethical? For example, asking questions about the market and getting feeds from the MLS and so on can be great to maintain connections and get a tap onto the market, but I certainly don't want to appear to be trying to take up people's time - and multiple agents too - by "asking too many questions" or overall just taking up a certain amount of someone else's time with no indication that I would work with 1 specific realtor over another. Does this make sense? realizing the wording is kind of tricky to write out so apologies if this seems to be a ramble. I am eventually going to become an agent so this can be helpful for me to know but overall just trying to gauge what is considered good business practice when it comes to multiple agents offering you advice, leads, answers, etc.

Post: Debt Service Coverage Ratio loans - More info about it?

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

Hi BP,

I hope everyone is well! I haven't read much about DSCR loans; but as far as what i understand - it focuses more on about the potential rental income and overall health of the investment rather than your personal income and/or credit score? I'm guessing the caveat means you need to bring 15-25% down payment and that's sometimes difficult for certain new investors like myself?

Thank you and let me know if some lenders or RE pro's out there know more information DSCR loans!

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Carson T.:
Quote from @Quentin Thiery:
Quote from @Carson T.:

@Quentin Thiery I definitely recommend the Capital Region! I closed on my first househack in Cohoes (county of Albany) last summer at the height of the market. The building was a triplex and cashflowed while I was occupying!

House hacking is very doable in Albany, Troy, and Schenectady and will more times than not cover your whole mortgage payment. 

I am from Long Island where everything is much more expensive and much newer. All the property I own in the Capital Region is over 100 years old. Some people will say this opens you up to risk and high maintenance costs, but this provides so much opportunity for value-add updating. 

Plus the buildings in this region can be so beautiful. There's nothing like restoring an old Victorian home to its former glory.

@Carson T. Totally feel you! I'm in Miami right now and while beautiful, every building looks more or less the same. Found that in many cities to be honest. You gotta love the NorthEast because those buildings can have some character. I'll definitely look into the upstate region especially since you and many others seem to be recommending it. Did you have to do a lot or some rehabbing/cosmetic work while you lived there?


No rehab on that one at all! Completely turn-key and a cash-flowing monster. If I had to do it again, I'd probably choose something with more value add opportunities. 

If you're looking for your first property, something turn key is honestly not the end of the world. The last thing you want is to get over your head in rehab while navigating the process for the first time. Buying a turnkey property gave me the confidence to dive into more complicated projects later. 

 @Carson T. Wow that's great! Yeah turnkey would be amazing - what was your process for finding that deal? I feel like the turnkey deals are harder to come by and make work given the circumstances. You would still choose a property with more value add work needing to be done (and maybe more headaches) even though you have a cash flowing monster with barely any work? What am i missing? Looking forward to hearing from you about your experiences and how you found a turnkey property

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Michelle Pepe:

Hey @Quentin ! Im an agent upstate in the Hudson Valley and have plenty of connections in Albany area. I have a few lenders that would be able to help as well. Reach out if you want some help looking!

@Michelle Pepe I definitely will! I for sure will be needing to talk to a few lenders so your connections will help a ton. Are there any areas/towns you specialize in or are you kind of everywhere up and down the valley?

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Carson T.:

@Quentin Thiery I definitely recommend the Capital Region! I closed on my first househack in Cohoes (county of Albany) last summer at the height of the market. The building was a triplex and cashflowed while I was occupying!

House hacking is very doable in Albany, Troy, and Schenectady and will more times than not cover your whole mortgage payment. 

I am from Long Island where everything is much more expensive and much newer. All the property I own in the Capital Region is over 100 years old. Some people will say this opens you up to risk and high maintenance costs, but this provides so much opportunity for value-add updating. 

Plus the buildings in this region can be so beautiful. There's nothing like restoring an old Victorian home to its former glory.

@Carson T. Totally feel you! I'm in Miami right now and while beautiful, every building looks more or less the same. Found that in many cities to be honest. You gotta love the NorthEast because those buildings can have some character. I'll definitely look into the upstate region especially since you and many others seem to be recommending it. Did you have to do a lot or some rehabbing/cosmetic work while you lived there?

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Mohammed Rahman:

Hey @Quentin Thiery - I'm an investor & realtor based in NYC, but I invest upstate: Buffalo, Rochester, etc. 

While I was doing my research, I picked Buffalo over Albany because the population was larger in Buffalo with similar career-demographic breakdowns (a large chunk of Buffalo residents work in healthcare as they have an extensive hospital system up there). There are also a few colleges between Buffalo and Rochester to consider (RIT being a notable one). 

I've heard a lot of good things about Albany as well, as you can probably guess from the rest of the comments in the forums. 

Ultimately, you can't really say one area is better than the other as it boils down to what you actually want. I know if I could start over, maybe I would have invested in Albany because it's definitely a lot closer than Buffalo :) 

 @Mohammed Rahman Totally feel you! That Bills Mafia can really be a positive effect on the real estate market up there, but I definitely don't think I could go all the way up there in Buffalo. I'll message you and we can chat some more since I am getting my license soon and happy to chat with an experienced realtor like yourself.

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Andrew Jennings Freerks:

@Quentin Thiery great observations.  NYC can be expensive to start and or continue investing in.  We purchased 3 properties in the South Bronx, before deciding to give Albany a try, mostly due to the price point.  Due also Albany has several schools, hospitals and also all the state workers.  It is a nice trifecta :)  So far Albany has been very good to us, so drop me a line if you want to chat more about the Capital Region. 

@Andrew Jennings Freerks Thank you for the response Andrew, definitely will reach out to you. Yeah I love that Albany has a bunch of different schools, hospitals, and state employees that make the market pretty dependable! I guess when it comes to within Albany, finding the right place to invest is where I am hesitant. Let's chat though for sure! 

Post: House Hacking in NY - Upstate or LI

Quentin ThieryPosted
  • Interior Decorator
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

@Abel Curiel Awesome thank you for the reply! Funny you mention @Nate Monson we just connected yesterday. Thank you!