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All Forum Posts by: Pete Perez

Pete Perez has started 53 posts and replied 362 times.

Post: Renton WA - Kitchen Demo NEED CONTRACTORS

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120

Kitchen Plan PDF

Hello,

I have a property in Renton WA and I am starting a kitchen remodel. I am looking to hire a contractor for the kitchen demo. The attached link has a downloadable PDF that shows the demo plan. Its a complete gut job down to the studs. Demoing - cabinets, drywall, and a dividing wall. 

So far I have received a quote for $2500. I am still shopping for other quotes, but does this sound like a decent price? 

The contractor that quoted me said he could get it done in a day. Even if its a team of 4 guys working 8 hours...thats almost $80/hr. Seems high, but am I out of touch?

Thanks!

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Jonathan R McLaughlin:

@Pete Perez when u say 200k after taxes how much would you lose to taxes?

Sell, exchange, refi

I wouldn't pay any capital gains taxes because I've occupied the property 4/5 years I've owned it. I'd only pay excise tax (WA state tax) and realtor fees. 

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Marian Smith:

@Pete Perez I am in the same situation but I don't know what I'd do with the cash. I don't think stocks are any safer than real estate that has appreciated so much in such a short period. Both seem risky. (Thing about stocks, you can sell part of your position.) Since you want to flip, I would sell in your situation. Selling would allow a flip project to operate with less risk of financial stress. But that is me and I hate stress. It can motivate others, so I am told.

 I am trying to accumulate wealth and decrease my stress levels. I don't do well if I am constantly stressed out, so I hear you. I know flipping is going to come with its own set of stressors, but I feel comfortable in that realm, because in my day job I basically do Fix & Flip projects but for commercial HVAC. The project cycle + working with sub contractors is really familiar to me and having cash will make me feel a lot better. 

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @John Barrett:

@Pete Perez I would be looking to do either a cash out refinance or a 1031 exchange.  I monitor our equity position in each property and as the equity has grown we have used both to continue growing our portfolio.  The real key is deciding whether or not you want to own the existing asset long term.  We recently did a 1031 on a property because we decided we didn't want to hold the asset (it was harder to manage than our other units due to distance). It took some time to find the replacement property but after we have completed renovations, our cash flow will have doubled, equity has grown and it will be easier to manage.

Best of luck,

John

 Hi John! You hit on a great point. I really don't want to hold this property long term. Its a duplex, in a "C" area of the Renton Highlands near the Renton Boeing plant. Luckily I've occupied the property 4/5 years I've owned it, so I don't have to worry about capital gains. I do like the idea of 1031 exchanging into a property that cash flows better and is easier to manage. That is something I will likely try to do going forward when I start accumulating more properties. 

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Naz Hossain:

It would depend on how much cash reserves you currently have. If you already have a strong cash reserve, I'd do a LOC on the property. You will access to 80% of that equity and you get to keep the house. You will still have that "cash" behind you and your $800 cash flow can be payment for that interest - so basically just cash.

Everyone's situation is different but you are in a great spot. All the best!

 This is an interesting idea. I think my cash reserves are decent right now. I've got ~$30k that I have stashed away in stocks + crypto that would be easy to liquidate. I don't like keeping my cash in a savings account when I can invest it. 

What are the interest rates/fees on a LOC typically?

I can see how this strategy would be advantageous because its using leverage and I can keep the property. I'd also be curious how easy it is to access the "Cash" in this strategy. Is it like - I have a "credit card" and I can use it to purchase other properties or are there more steps and paperwork required to get access to the "cash" to use it?   

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Ken Naim:

@Pete Perez i was in a similar situation, took the cash snd stsrted buying bigger properties to get higher cashflow and equity buildup

 Has that turned out to be a good decision?

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

That's an easy answer - I'd take the $200k after taxes right now. 

1. There's no guarantee that future sale figures are higher than what you have now;

2. The time value of money means that inflation may destroy your future profit relative to today;

3. It takes over 20 years of $800/month cash flow to make $200k.

4. If you chose to reinvest that money you should be able to make it make much more than $800/month.

An alternative approach if you strongly believe that future value will be much higher would be to harvest the equity and keep the property, but the new mortgage would essentially destroy your cash flow. 

 agreed sometimes its just best to take the cash there will always be rentals to buy.. and you lock in profit.. so risk of future real estate retreat is taken off the table.

 Thanks for the response Jay! That is where my mind is as well. Eventually I'll want to accumulate cash flowing properties, but harvesting profits now is where my gut is telling me to go.  

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

That's an easy answer - I'd take the $200k after taxes right now. 

1. There's no guarantee that future sale figures are higher than what you have now;

2. The time value of money means that inflation may destroy your future profit relative to today;

3. It takes over 20 years of $800/month cash flow to make $200k.

4. If you chose to reinvest that money you should be able to make it make much more than $800/month.

An alternative approach if you strongly believe that future value will be much higher would be to harvest the equity and keep the property, but the new mortgage would essentially destroy your cash flow. 

This aligns most with what I have been thinking. I'd rather have the $200k now and use most of it to reinvest in Real Estate & other assets. Plus having the liquid cash when forclosures start is going to be very useful to me (I think). 

I did want to note that the $800/mo is factoring in a newer, slightly higher mortgage after pulling cash out to fund a rehab to the property. After renting both units out and deducting VIMR (Vacancy, Insurance, Mortgage, Repairs) I'll cash flow $800/mo. Still, I'd rather have the cash so I can jump on a good opportunity when it arises. 

 

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120

Wow! I was not anticipating this kind of response. Thank you to everyone who posted.

Post: Would you rather $200k now OR $800/mo cash flow + future sale?

Pete PerezPosted
  • Engineer/Real Estate Investor
  • Renton, WA
  • Posts 368
  • Votes 120

Would you rather have $200k (after taxes) right now, or would you rather have $800/mo cash flow + money from future sale? I am anticipating "Well, it depends on what your goals are" as an answer. I want to know what YOU would prefer? Why? 

I've got one rental property that has $270k in equity and I am considering selling it, because I'd rather have the cash. I'd feel a lot better flipping a house with that much money behind me.