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All Forum Posts by: Pat L.

Pat L. has started 60 posts and replied 3918 times.

Post: Ideas for marketing vacant land

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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I don't know about AZ but up here if you offer it with all mineral rights etc you will definitely spark some " fracking " interest...

Post: HUD canceling my bid

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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We had a couple fall through
We had given good size earnest $ deposits.
But apparently HUD had a problem getting clean title so cancelled the deals returning our $.
Several months later the properties came back up but we had moved on.

Post: Popcorn Ceilings

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
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We are doing one now pre '78 & painted with oil base!!!!
Also with wall removals/header installs between the living room, dining room & kitchen. Plus the installation of recessed lighting etc I had my guys put up 1x3 strapping & 12 ft drywall. Done in a day & a half.

Post: Lesson on having your ducks in a row

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
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As the cliche goes 'cash is king' & if you know what you are getting into you can blow the others away with fast closings without the proverbial BS contingencies.
Congrats

Post: Anyone ever get an unexpected (or undeserved) windfall on a real estate transaction?

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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We bought two properties in the last 24 months that had a similar scenario.
the first was a foreclosure that sat for 5 yrs with a number of low ball offers being refused.
It was $58,000 owed. We went in l $21,000 & got it but had mold etc to deal with & we sent them pics to confirm the deteriorating condition.
The taxes were paid for the next year in advance by the Bank.
The next one was a 3600 sq ft mansion built in 1830 on 2 acres near the lake. But it was in immacluate condition.
it was used as a half way home for wayward girls & owed for 25 yrs by the Catholic Missions.
They were unloading it for $69,900 but my buyers wanted it bad & we bid $87,000 beating out all the other low ball offers.
The taxes were also prepaid for the next 24 months.

I have a couple more but they are ones that we took back after holding firsts for 5-7 years. The best was a couple who split up & walked away after doing over a $100,000 in renovations to my old batchelor days home that I sold them. We paid them $45,000 cash for keys & they left all the high end appliances !!!!!! & my wife still thinks they would have walked for less???
I love this business & all the surprises it holds.

Post: When does Rehab/improvement trigger assessment?

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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Check with your assessor. I bought a home for my 19 yr old daughter to own.
the assessor showed up with a camera as I was gutting it walls windows doors everything.
The assessor explained to me that the city had a program in place whereby the assessment for a home in need of extensive repair would be adjusted & a moratorium on tax increases would be good for 5 years. School taxes would however rise 5% but stay at that for the 5 years.
The home was assessed @ $159,900 & I got it from a bankrupt seller for $120,000.
Bottom line was she drop the assessment to $100,000. It blew me away but up here in NY it saved my daughter a lot in taxes.
However, in a nearby city we bought a home assessed @ $24,000 for $20,000 @ a tax lien auction put $7500 into repairs & they reassessed it a year later for $78,000 although the neighboring homes were assessed in the $50's. Those we sold it to for $39K had to sell it as the taxes were too high to make it a viable rental.

Post: Tax question on Water Heater replacement

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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Originally posted by Steven Hamilton II:
Pat L.,

The self-rent issue is a big one; however, you have to be sure to structure things correctly. I would not have leased out the structural components that way. as they are items that are not typically removed from a home; however, if you wanted to do that with appliances, I can't argue that one.

Sounds to me as though she did not quite necessarily know exactly what was needed for
this audit.
Many auditors start with your summary sheet and do a sample of the expenses. they will select a percentage of the items on the summary sheet and check for their accuracy within the supporting documents.

-Steven

I think I overwhelmed her with all the documents, a complete set of books & a 118 - 125 page returns.She had a very difficult time understanding how I do business & the number of properties held.
I still think the audit was primarily initiated to nail me with SE taxes, which is what I ended up owing.

Post: Recession proof business ideas

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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Originally posted by Austin Samber:
Pat L. I am a newbie and am curios as to what LTO stands for? Thanks!

Lease To Own

Post: Tax question on Water Heater replacement

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
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Originally posted by Steven Hamilton II:
Pat L.,

That is a possibility; however, did they ask about those expenses? Also, How long did the management company depreciate them over?

Remember there is always the possibility of an auditor that doesn't know any better.

-Steven

Our property mgt LLC is a MMLLC but she did get me on 'self-rent' & became fixated on it. I was denied the expense but it was minimal.
The equipt lease agreements were fully documented & she reviewed the MMLLC operating agreement & resolutions in detail.
We also split some long-term hold property into a land cost/ leased back as several Properties exist on double lots & for asset protection etc. That got through.
She left the room on a number of occasions to defer questions to a senior colleague.
But I did notice she barely reviewed the piles of receipts I had assembled using NEAT but used the front sheets reports NEAT generates to summarize all the expenses.
Mileage was a big deal, if it was specific to a property she allowed it but well documented mileage to do other business was in most cases denied but it wasn't worth arguing about.
It was an exhausting three days but I leaned a lot.

Post: Tax question on Water Heater replacement

Pat L.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Upstate, NY
  • Posts 3,976
  • Votes 3,359

My property management LLC buys the appliances, water heaters furnaces etc then leases them to the LLC that owns the property.
I sat through a 3 days IRS audit for the years 2009 & 2010 & it flew without objection.