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All Forum Posts by: Ian Patrick

Ian Patrick has started 1 posts and replied 41 times.

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Thanks and you are correct on much of what you said in regards to our business. I dont wholesale in my name. Everything is in our holding company Franchise Real Estate.

Originally posted by Dennis Treacy:
Originally posted by crosswind_:
I truly hope that no one felt as if I were attacking anyone. All I was asking, was about keeping short term capital gains.

Thanks,


Crosswind,

Ian gave you the only answer he could. I like Ian own a business, a great deal of money crosses my books. I also do not care about, or pay short term capital gains.
Ian is most likely an S or C corporation, this structure would allow him to take many pre-tax benefits, all of which would lessen the profits of his company maybe even into the loss category.

My corporation usually loses money most years, however I receive a great monthly rent as the owner of the building, the lease is triple net to boot, and not to forget the business meetings in vacation like settings, health care, life insurance, a vehicle and all costs of running the vehicle.
Meals at nice restaurants, some of my clothes, etc.
Did I mention the $5000 I pay each of my children a year for working for my real estate company?
This year my daughter used her pay check to help with her college tuition, my son used his to pay part of his private school bill.

Just think if you could cover 100% of the expenses you now pay out of pocket with after tax dollars, how much money would you really need to make a year in salary?

Btw, In those years when we lose money, I get to write those losses off against my personal taxes to the tune of my ownership interest in the corporation.

My advice is to start a LLC as soon as possible, ask your accountant what form it should take for you particular need. Don't worry about short term gains, you won't have any.

I think you are thinking of wholesaling in your personal name, don't do it. Or if you must, consider that no one actually sends a 1099 after you leave the settlement table.
You will have to figure out what to do with that large check.


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

The majority of our leads come from mailers and our canvas team right now. We have 4 people that canvas 5 days per week for leads and send out about 4000 mailers give or take per month.

Originally posted by Jeffrey Gordon:
Hi Ian, hope you hang around and contribute to this thread. I would be very interested in how you create deal flow of 400 per month and sort through them to find 10-12 per month. Knowing what you know now how would you start a similar operation in a new city?

jeffrey


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Rich,

I have no problem with other investors contributing, but over my head is far from it. I'll let you know when I get there. Newbie , come on. Check our website. It's not a plug at all, just showing you that I am far from a newbie. Most of our properties sell in under 6 days. As far as flipping, wholesaling, renting , I know what I am doing. As far as commercial stuff, I dont know much. I know some basics with it as we've moved a few pieces, but I dont own any. I also know a good bit about private lending as we have a partnership with hardmoneybankers in Maryland. I am not an expert in lending, but if someone had a question, I would call my partner down there to ask his thoughts.

Originally posted by Rich Weese:
I read the entire thread. I think initiator of the thread jumped in over his head. I've decided that I'll try to answer questions also, and I AM an investor!!

The question Jon K posted was simple. I've stated many times, there is NO secret to making money. The secret is keeping it. I've posted and blogged on that many times. I thought maybe the newbie had some good ideas, but as pointed out, he still has a bit to learn on that subject.
I agree that you con't entrust your tax consequesnces to any one else. No one will ever take better care of your money than you,,,period

Same question- how do you keep the short temr capital gains. Simple question Difficult answer. I've posted some of those numerous times, here and in a book.
By the way, I'll also be around to answer questions for more than a few times. I'm here to learn also, so tell me your plans and secrets. Thanks. Rich.


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

I am not trying to prove anything. I never said there werent experienced investors around here. In fact, several here have been of great help to me in the past. As far as questions I can answer questions in regards to wholesaling, rentals and flips. I dont do commercial, but I'm not against it. Dont know enough about it. Why would I lie about the amount of deals I do per month. I have no reason to. It's just an average. Ive had month I've done 4 and months Ive done 12. If the thread isnt of any use, I have no problem just stopping. Thought I would help with my experience. As far as the taxes go, I trust my partner to submit them to our accountant that I trust. Havent had a problem yet and you might be correct in that money could be left on the table. Might be worth looking into.

Originally posted by motiv8td:
well, this has been waste of a read so far. I guess anyone these days can give vague answers to specific questions and get a thread started.

Ian, have anything to share that would add some value to the community?

Could you possibly be more specific on the types of questions you're looking to answer to prove your savvy status instead of giving really vague answers to the questions that have been asked by experienced investors(which by the way this place is full of in case you were wondering)

Point is, if you're going to come out and offer whatever expertise you say you have(by the looks of it not much, anyone can say they wholesale 10 deals a month) you might consider to be ready give specific answers and examples and know that experience investors will easily and quickly tear apart any part of any answers that lack truth and credibility.

Welcome to BP btw


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Got to love forums. Im not pretending to be a guru, I just said I am an experienced investor that can answer questions. Some things I know very well and other I dont. I have buyers that own 600-2000 properties that couldnt tell you the first thing about wholesaling properties, does that mean they arent qualified to give advice or help others? I didnt come here to prove anything, just helping out because I remember people that helped me when I first started.

Originally posted by Jeffrey Koenig:
Sounds like you should come here for some help. You should participate not offer to answer questions and teach like you are a guru who is doing community service. There are several people here who do very well for themselves and do not start out by saying they will be taking questions for the lucky few who will get to ask this week. We dont even know who you are or if you even know what you are talking about. From your posts so far, it seems you know very little about your business.


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

You can go after REO's as there are an abundance right now. The market moves in swings with them. Right now we are overloaded. Our company sticks primarily private sellers, but we do pick up REO's from time to time. Make sure your numbers work regardless. Our market tends to be 65% ARV-Repairs - wholesale fee. If you arent sure what your market is, call your local HML's and see what they lend up to. The tends to be a good feel for it.

Originally posted by Joseph Arerdondo:
Originally posted by Ian Patrick:
My intentions? Primarily to help others if they have questions as I would have liked the same when I first started.


Ian - I am new to REI(6 months) but have been getting all my education much like you via the internet. I have purchased a couple of books and DVD's (*************) and been on numerous REI forums gathering info and learning. But now I want to do. I do not have money now as I have used it for another investment I got into back in December. I am interested in flipping/wholesaling right now as that seem to be the way to get going quickly. My question - and I know it is very subjective - is what can I focus on right now that will allow me to do this considering this will be my first flip/buy. Should I try REO's and bid on FNMA since they seem to be easier to get around the seasoning issue and also the 120% rule. Or can you give me some other advice? I need to get rolling and hopefully be in a position to help others someday soon.

Thanks for all your help in advance.

Joseph Arredondo


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

It is run like a normal business and we dont have a creative tax structure. Our consulting fee/ assignment fee is to the company. We have normal overhead for marketing and such. We pay normal LLC taxes from there. This is not an area I would be considered an expert on. Our accountant is very REI savy and we trust him.

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

When you say, keep taxes down. What are you referencing? How our company pays out to us as the owners?

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

My intentions? Primarily to help others if they have questions as I would have liked the same when I first started.

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

As far as tax efficient, can you be more specific.

To answer what we do, we wholesale 8-10 deals per month, hold properties, flip and manage properties.

To analyze our market we look at DOM, crime and owner occ vs non owner occ to determine flip vs rent. This didnt determine if we wholesale or not, it determines the best exit strat. You can wholesale either way.