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All Forum Posts by: Ian Patrick

Ian Patrick has started 1 posts and replied 41 times.

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

No worries. Just trying to help out. Enjoy

Originally posted by Richard Johnston:
Hello Ian and other like-minded BP friends,
Happy 2010! A New Year, A New Decade and a New Opportunity to Succeed Indeed!
Just wanted to post a "Thank You" note for all the pointers and so happy that you did not walk away when you were capped on. We are newbies here and appreciate the good folks with good intentions! Thanks again! Sincerely, D and R


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Don't let the holidays be an excuse to slow down your business. There is still plenty of money to be made during them. Enjoy the holidays!

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

just to clarify, i dont do deals with ryan, that was in reference to the other question in the quote

Originally posted by Ian Patrick:
yea. listen to ryan.

we split all of our deals 50/50 for the ones we send him. we dont usually sell to retail buyers.

Originally posted by G. Founder:
how much do you pay the short sale negotiator?

how do you find retail buyers?




Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

yea. listen to ryan.

we split all of our deals 50/50 for the ones we send him. we dont usually sell to retail buyers.

Originally posted by G. Founder:
how much do you pay the short sale negotiator?

how do you find retail buyers?


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Chris

You are correct in that short sales can take a lot of time and energy. If you have other parts of your business in REI that are running well, it might be worth the outsourcing route. My answer was geared more towards someone just jumping into the business. At this point, you already probably have a very good handle on transactions and what you are up against. It is worth doing atleast a couple yourself and then pushing it out to a 3rd party. Just my opinion. I noticed you are from Amarillo. I know a great wholesaler down there. He is top notch.

Originally posted by Chris Trook:
I think ya'll (we're aloud to say ya'll in Texas) make a good point. It is important to know, first hand, what the process is. I understand the basic routine, however, I need to go through the process myself.

Short sales take a lot more time and energy then any of my other techniques so the only way I would consider short sales as being productive in my business plan would be to outsource them.

I guess I was asking to confirm what I had already believed. A smart savvy investor will outsource short sales. (once they understand it themselves)


Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Good answer. I agree. For someone just starting, it is very true. It will help shorten your "floundering" time. If you dont understand a part of the transaction/process, you are doing something wrong. You need to know every part of your business better than someone else. This can be debated, but I would say that I am yet to see how this isnt the case for a mid to small size REI company.

Originally posted by nationwidepi:
Originally posted by Chris Trook:
How do you handle short sales?
Do you guys handle them in house or do you outsource them?
There are obvious advantages to outsourcing this task to free up time to wear other hats, however, in starting out, I highly recommend to newbies that you learn EVERYTHING about short sales, including the negotiation and BPO process as that will allow you the knowledge and experience to know exactly how it should be done and how it should not be done. Start out doing it yourself (or along with an experienced pro). Having this knowledge of doing it yourself will allow you to train (or at least make sure) that the outsourced party does it your way/the best way.



Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

We have a 3rd party handle them. We use a small local guy that does decent volume. I know there are these bigger national short sale guys, but we liked a guy that was local to our market

Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Which ad for sellers are you talking about? For mailers we simply use the public records on our local MLS. We dont do much with NOD's as they tend to be saturated but we have done a few deals with responses from mailers with them. Most of the homes we deal with are not in default. 1/4 probably are.

Originally posted by Tyler H:
Ian,

Can you share exactly what you look for in the "ad" for potential sellers? And for mailers, how do go about getting the name and addresses to mail these out? Do you have title company do a search for you for NOD lists?

Originally posted by Ian Patrick:
Easiest start point for you imo

1. Sellers - Newspaper ad and mailers
2. Buyers - Networking events

Find a couple of cash buyers at your local networking events and see where they buy and at what numbers. Then market to those areas.

Originally posted by Charlotte Lucchesi:
Hi Ian
I am new to investing and I would appreciate any help and I think it is great that you want to help as I have received so much information from these forums. I do not have any one working for me so, My question to you is: How would I go about finding both sellers and buyers so that I could wholesale properties?






Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

yes

Originally posted by nationwidepi:
Of course, if you want cash flow, than you would need the PI to be below 50% and not up to 50%, otherwise you are at breakeven. (according to a 50% rule)



Post: Experienced Investor will Answer Questions for next few days

Ian PatrickPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 10

Maybe I read your response wrong, but arent we more or less saying the same thing? Maybe I should have expanded my answer for that asked, but yes, the reason it is 50% is better explained by Jon.

Originally posted by Jon Holdman:
That's not quite what the 50% rule means as its used on BiggerPockets. The 50% rule means all expenses, capital items and vacancy will average out to 50% of the gross scheduled rents. So, it is true that the P&I payments cannot exceed 50% of the gross rents if you want to be cash flow positive. But the "50% rule" is a way to estimate the net operating income from the gross scheduled rents. Its discussed at length in the sticky threads in the Rental Property forum.