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All Forum Posts by: Lucas Pfaff

Lucas Pfaff has started 15 posts and replied 106 times.

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38

I'd agree with 10+ years Matt. I was just answering the *best case* question :)

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38

@Richard Fields Thanks for the explanation. I completely misunderstood your first break down. The second makes perfect sense.

@Michael Olesky Hey Michael, your point about time better spent elsewhere is very true and something I seemingly forgot. Thanks for bringing my attention to it. 

Best case scenario? Good question! I purchase with clear title and no violations or liens. My expenses run ~$500 for acquisition with an annual insurance premium of $255 + tax. Holding the property as-is, the area appreciates as the crime diffuses over the next 5-yrs and I sell it for $20-$30,000. Purely speculative based on a perspective similar to what @Matt Roberts alluded to.

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Rick H.:

@Lucas Pfaff Here's a scenario:

You record your deed and the local sheriff meets you at the property and serves you as defendant in a toxic waste super site lawsuit. As you duck into the house, you startle a squatter who shoots you in the head. You don't die but are permanently paralyzed. 

You did ask what's the worst that can happen. Care to rephrase your question?

 HAHAHA! This is dark but it gave me a great laugh! 

👍

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @David Dachtera:

@Lucas Pfaff,

Aside from what the others have mentioned, the WORST that could happen is that you fail to do a thorough analysis and end up stuck with a serious "alligator" (eats you alive).

Analyze the property, determine an exit strategy and plan how to get there. If the numbers work, get a second opinion from someone you respect. Whatever they say, if you're comfortable with your own decision at that point, go for it!

 I love this advice David. Thanks for it. This is exactly what I am in the process of doing now that I have a better understanding of the risks.

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Paulette Midgette:

@Lucas Pfaff, @Ethan Giller is absolutely right about L&I.  You as the owner have a responsible to keep up the exterior maintanence on the property weather it is a shell or not.

In addition, depending on the neighborhood the house may be used as either a place to stash and sell drugs from or a drug house.  I would suggest you walk the neighborhood at various times during the day and over a period of time.  Talk to the neighbors as well if you can.  No matter how bad an area is, you will find a few house that show pride in ownership.  These are the doors you want to knock on.

Thanks for the input Paulette. I've walked the neighborhood and you're absolutely right. Even in the worst areas there are those who maintain their pride. I will stop back and see what else I can learn.

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38

@Jason Bott@Ed W. - Your points about liability and insurance are not taken lightly. I'm waiting on a quote from my insurer for this property under its own policy (more expensive) or as an addition to my existing policy (less expensive).

@Matt Roberts - The property is in Kensington near Front St and E St. It's a very rough area and at this point in time I have no interest in managing a rehab OR tenant in that area beyond making sure the property is secure and not falling down.

@Richard Fields - Thanks for the calculation...Are you certain of that math? Maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but it looks too low. Assessed value is $22,200. Based on your math the transfer tax would be $8.88 (22,200x0.01x0.04). My guess is that the transfer tax would actually just be 4% of the assessed value ($222). 

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Ethan Giller:

Risk is that L&I cites it for being unsafe (requiring repairs, somewhat likely) or vacant (requiring a permit, not that likely) or for having boarded up windows/doors (requiring repairs, not that likely).  If you buy, get a U&O first to see if there are existing violations that you will have to deal with.

And also that you hold it for a few years and the area doesn't turn around and it's not worth the holding costs.

And also make sure you're getting clear title, so the title insurance fees and deed filing fees and fair market value transfer tax will probably be $500-$1K.

 Hey Ethan - The property has been cited in the past and all violations have been addressed. You're point about the area not turning around is my biggest worry right now. This is definitely highly speculative. BTW, the property will be conveyed with clear tile. 

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Annette Hibbler:

Ummm, off the top of my head....back taxes, liens on the property, asbestos, termite infestation, a former drug house or a murder at the location, crap neighborhood that no decent person will want to live in. Any of the above.  Nothing worthwhile is free, especially property.  Take this on and you could be getting into something that could be very costly to you.

 I've gotten some additional info and there are no back taxes, liens, or asbestos. The property will be conveyed with a clean title. It is DEFINITELY a crap neighborhood where few will want to live. You're right about nothing worthwhile being free...

Post: FREE Property - What's the WORST that could happen?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38

I have been offered a free property ($1) in a very rough part of Philadelphia. The property is a boarded up shell. I'm trying to figure out what risks I run if I purchase this and sit on it for the foreseeable future.

Aside from yearly RE taxes and HI there shouldn't be any costs I believe?

Post: Wholesaling mentor holding me back?

Lucas PfaffPosted
  • Realtor/Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 38

@Ryan Igbanol Maybe post some details of 2-3 properties that she torpedoed and see what the feedback is. If feedback from BP'ers matches your mentor's feedback, then perhaps it's just a matter of finding better deals and asking the right questions (of your mentor) to understand what's missing. On the other hand, if BP'ers feel there is opportunity with some of your deals, it could be time to cut ties.