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All Forum Posts by: Derrick S.

Derrick S. has started 12 posts and replied 55 times.

Post: Lender refuses to set a closing date.

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Erin Margaret:

Re derrick:
Pending action for being too slow at their jobs? What legal reason would I state?

You said that you might have to accept a lower offer because of them. More than that a legal letter is a good kick in the pants. It'll go right up the chain as no one wants to be the reason they are being sued. 

I'm not saying "sue them," I'm saying get a scary letter written, and send it to everyone in the department asking "who's to blame?" Maybe even use PrePaid Legal? I do hope whatever action you take that you see it resolved quickly. 

Post: Lender refuses to set a closing date.

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

You could also get a lawyer to write up a "pending action"  letter,  requesting info for a lawsuit to come later. That would likely get gears turning. 

Post: What's a slumlord to do?

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

I really like the big thinking here. One piece of wisdom I've been shared was "buy the ugliest house on the lot." Sounds like you're right there! 

I'm just brainstorming, but what about this: flatten everything, build it into a mobile home park for the time being (which sounds like an improvement, easy rents), then once the area is in gentrification you can either not renew leases, pull the mohos, and build what you like or sell to a developer.

Of course putting in a park will take a little development, but it sounds like you are already up for that?

Post: HML analysis

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

That sounds like a great deal, to me. I wouldn't mind knowing the info of that HML

Originally posted by @Edwin Gachinga:

2%?? Just from reading that, I can sense you can probably sell ice to an eskimo! You're good @Derrick S.

 Thanks, I appreciate it. There's a great talk on TED by a salesman about perceived value and it's benefits. Been awhile since I watched it, but it's a great exercise in thinking outside the box, and answers the people who look down on salesmen. https://www.ted.com/talks/rory_sutherland_life_les...

All my best to you! 

Post: House Flipping version 2.0

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

Great read. Inspired me.

What follows is how I've signed every credit partner that I've sat down with, to terms that very few would believe: they receive 2% of whatever I borrow, no split of profits; and they're happy. 

If you read my bio you know that I am not in a "hot market," but we love where we live and I see opportunity everywhere I look. So we are starting in REI and it's going pretty good so far, closing in on several deals at once and have one success to report: I have 3 partners that are letting me use their good credit history to invest with. We will JV on deals until we decide not to anymore. They only want 2% of what we borrow paid to them.

Credit partners are not the preferred method, I know; but I'm starting with not much more than hustle. I'd much rather the ease of a HML but don't have the experience they want. I'd really love an IRA network to borrow out of, but am still working on that. And of course, I wish I have my own savings to invest along with great credit, but we are a young family. So I used the one thing I can offer: salesmanship. 

Sales is a craft to me. The ability to communicate effectively, to anticipate needs and wants, and deliver people to a decision is something I've studied and practiced all my life in varying capacities. I'll share what sales principles I used and how they applied to getting credit partners.

"Know your customer" - I am not looking for sophisticated investors, I am looking for credit to use. So, I didn't look on BP or in REI clubs, I put ads on Craigslist job boards. The folks looking there are looking for income and not investments. I offer "$5,000 for your good credit" and when we sit down I emphasize the new stream of income, 2% of every dollar I borrow on their credit, and how our agreement promises that I will repay all debts. I also share that I will only buy property that is presently under-valued. I'm conservative and they are safe.

"Show me the baby, don't tell me about the delivery" - That's a little crass, but is how the principle was taught to me. Rather than asking the credit partner to join me first, then we go hunt for a deal, I came ready with several potential deals. These were right off of the MLS, but they were easy to understand and showed that this is a real opportunity that they could profit from.

Question Based Selling - It's a great book, and coupled with High Probability Selling, I have learned that a string of questions is the best way to make someone be comfortable and take action. It's the Socratic method applied to salesmanship. "What did you like about the ad you responded to?","How much money are you looking to make this way?","Do you think you are a qualified credit partner?","What more do you need to know, before signing our agreement?" Maybe the best kept secret in selling. It is a developed skill, but also something you can prepare on a notepad easily. 

"Maybe' is worse than a 'No" - From our first email I was preparing them to make a decision. "If this meeting goes right we won't need the NDA I sent you." I had their 2% written in hard numbers right on the deal sheets. The meeting was short and pointed. Our agreement was written like sales-copy, reiterating what I'd just told them, and delivering them to a 'yes'. They either had to say Yes or walk away; there was no middle ground. "Maybe" wastes your time and gives false hope, at lease a "no" frees you to look to the next opportunity. 

I hope that these principles make your future partnerships easier, your selling stronger, and inspire you if you have nothing to start with. Now we have the borrowing potential of 3 great people. I look forward to posting many more success stories on here as we grow our business. 

If you feel like I'm taking advantage, I'd like to remind that each partner is happy, and that this is just a start. After our first deal I plan to structure an entity and bring in formal partners. In the mean time these folks will make a few thousand dollars on an asset (their credit) that they weren't using, and they didn't know how to monetize. I expect that I'll upgrade the better credit partners to business partners in our future entity as we build credit there. 

Post: My first investment really paid off for me

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

What a great story.

Post: Credit

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

Wow @Stanley Whigham you stud. That is a great looking process. Just wanted to say thanks, and ask if anyone else has used this strategy?

It seems to me that with a little starting capitol ($5k?) one might complete this process and get all the credit they need to start their REI business, without much finagling or liability.

What do you folks think? 

Post: Lightstream.com - Reviews/ Recommendations?

Derrick S.Posted
  • Soldotna / Kenai, AK
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 10

Just  commenting to bump this thread; I'm still interested in others experience.