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All Forum Posts by: Payman A.

Payman A. has started 25 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: Capital Gains/Dep Recapture If Not Above 2nd Tax Bracket

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Mark Creason:
Originally posted by @Payman A.:

 I appreciate the reply.  I'm using a taxable income example and what you outlined confirms what I was thinking.  So even if you are exempt from CG tax because you do not go above the 2nd tax bracket, dep.recapture is always considered ordinary income.  Hmmm...might have to consider a 1031 even though I don't like the idea of deferring anything.

Is the property in California?  They have a significant tax to collect as well.

Mark

 Luckily no and i don't like owning rental property in CA.  Selling in NC and replacing in LA and possibly NC

Post: Capital Gains/Dep Recapture If Not Above 2nd Tax Bracket

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Steven Hamilton II:

I love deferring everything.  Why not?

Actually, I may have seen the light since my last post and specially after considering future value of this transaction's tax liability (my first sell you see).  My not having liked the deferred tax scenario was a based on the way I conduct day to day business/activities, not because of any significant thought or knowledge on a 1031 exchange.  On that note, can you please tell me if tax on this transaction would later be calculated based on today's laws or those in effect when proceeds are finally taken?

Post: Capital Gains/Dep Recapture If Not Above 2nd Tax Bracket

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13

 I appreciate the reply.  I'm using a taxable income example and what you outlined confirms what I was thinking.  So even if you are exempt from CG tax because you do not go above the 2nd tax bracket, dep.recapture is always considered ordinary income.  Hmmm...might have to consider a 1031 even though I don't like the idea of deferring anything.

Post: Capital Gains/Dep Recapture If Not Above 2nd Tax Bracket

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

@Steven Hamilton II ?

But, as a non CPA...$60k of depreciation, and only $15k of cap gains seems odd, even with a tremendous amount of capital improvements.  You've had the property long enough for $60k in depreciation, but with only a $15k net increase in value?  Then again, I guess buying a $200k property, at the top 10 years ago, might fit that.  But, I believe you'll pay 25% on the depreciation recapture, and 15% on the cap gains.

Yes, pretty much right on as to when it was purchased

Post: Capital Gains/Dep Recapture If Not Above 2nd Tax Bracket

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13

Hi all.  So after looking through pages of previous posts/replies, I did not find a topic that covers my exact question so I'm submitting this one.

Can someone please clarify how capital gains and depreciation recapture are taxed when selling a long term investment if for example:

- There is $60K worth of depreciation

- There is $15K worth of gains on top of depreciation

- Taxable income for us, a married couple, is $50K

Thank you all in advance,

Payman

Post: Do you ask for proof of rental payment history?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Travis Sperr:

Even better reason to request- you are an investor, they work with investors. Pretty common questions when investing money into what is expected to be a cash flowing asset. If you are considering a business relationship with this party, here is a great opportunity to find out if they have their poop in a group. 

 Yes, thank you. I've already sent instructions to my agent to ask about the history but as mentioned in another reply, I'm thinking that asking for proof of payments is a bit much.  Would you agree?

Post: Do you ask for proof of rental payment history?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Without a doubt, ask for rental history. No seller should be offended by that request, and if they are, they are hiding something. The worst inherited tenant I ever had had a spotty payment history and the previous PM let her get away with it saying she always caught up. Well I had to evict her soon after taking over and she did major damage to the property. Do not take properties with bad tenants or at least ask for a substantial discount to pay for eviction and clean up!

 I appreciate your reply.  I certainly will ask for rental history though will probably stop short of asking for proof of payments.  I met the PM and they seem very professional, experienced, and organized (not that these attributes guarantee anything)

Post: Section 8 inspections

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Heather W.:

The Atlanta Housing Authority posts your results, pass or fail, to your account on their web portal. Each office is different though. 

 Thank you for the info which confirms that at least some agencies do keep records like I thought they would.  Trying to see if I can gather any info on this property before we close escrow, however, continued payments should at least mean that units are in current compliance. 

Post: Section 8 inspections

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Daniel Mohnkern:

That is true in my experience.  I think it may depend on your inspector. My inspector is a very nice lady who gives me a casual call to tell me if there is anything wrong and to ask me if I could take care of it whenever I can. She might call me again two weeks later to see if I did. Some people have much more strict inspectors, I'm sure. I am very blessed with mine.

 You definitely are blessed and thanks for the reply.  You are right about areas and inspection (and even inspectors) being different so I'm trying to find specific info from the agency...difficult to get a hold of anyone.

Post: Do you ask for proof of rental payment history?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Travis Sperr:

If another investor was selling to you without management I would be more lenient as most investors don't keep great records. A property management firm should be able to pull the books for you in about 10 min - so I would request. As well as the deposit amounts you will be credited with at the closing.

You don't want to buy a property that will require evicting 3 of the units next month because they haven't been paying and management hasn't been diligent in collecting.

Make sure you understand the section 8 - full or partial voucher - Sometimes section 8 only pays a portion - I know of landlords that have allowed the tenant not to pay their portion if small $25-50 a month because they were happy with just the section 8 amount.

I appreciate your reply and advice.  I already have all lease copies with rent/deposit details and sounds like your recommendation would be to just confirm the timeliness of the payments.  Seller's agent is also managing the property at this time and as much as I want to avoid the scenario you mentioned above, I don't want to be over the top either (we may be doing more deals with her and she may continue managing this property for us).