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All Forum Posts by: Payman A.

Payman A. has started 25 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: Section 8 inspections

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13

Hi everyone,

I was recently told that Section 8 does not provide inspection reports for passing units...only if a unit does not pass does owner/management get a report.  Can anyone please confirm this?

Thanks,

Payman

Post: Do you ask for proof of rental payment history?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13

Hi everyone,

So I'm in escrow for a 4plex that is fully occupied and currently manged by what seems to be an experienced and well organized firm.  1 of the units has been occupied since 2010, 2 since March, and 1 since Mary (2 are section 8).  Is it common to ask for proof of rental payments for past 3 months (or first month in case of the new tenant)?  I'd like to be diligent without being excessive.

Thanks and looking forward to your thoughts,

Payman

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Troy Young:

PS. one of the houses I bought for $8,500 spent less than $1,000 to fix it up and had it rented it out in less than a month after buying it. The tenant stayed for about 4 years and during that time he paid for the house and all my expenses from the house plus about $3,000 extra. $3k and a free house in 4 years and less than $10k investment isn't bad. When the tenant moved out I sold it the day the tenant moved for $25k (rent with the option to buy) with $5k down.   

 Hi Troy and thanks for the posts.  I will definitely take a look at the area and see if I can get inspired enough to start investing in markets other than NC.  Of course I think deals like what you wrote about are way different than what I'm used to and would benefit from local and hands on presence.  I'll stay in touch if MI ends up being an investment destination and let me know if you might ever want some agent/management contacts in NC.

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Joshua Woolls:
Originally posted by @Payman A.:
Originally posted by @Scott K.:

come to Detroit suburbs.  Its a thriving market

 Thanks Scott.  Is that where you are?  I've heard Redford is one of the places to consider but then I'm sure the numbers would have to be adjusted.  Do you have any estimates as to what kind of cash, return, & time frame I'd be looking at?

 Redford is great for buy and hold properties that have good rents. I cannot see it being a great place to flip. I love it for the cost vs. rents though. 40-50k is going to be your minimum all in cost for anything that is not completely destroyed though.

 Thanks Scott.  The numbers I've been working with in Detroit give me a cash on cash return of about 10-14%.  My understanding id that you can do a little better in the suburbs mainly due to insurance since higher rents are balanced out by higher property values, however, I'm already getting that in and around the Charlotte area where frankly, I'm more comfortable.  As it stands, it doesn't look like I'm going to start in or around Detroit just yet but would be eager to find safe areas that would beat my numbers in Charlotte (or if there is more of a risk like Detroit I would want noticeably better returns)

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Payman A. 

  You would be literally taking your life into your hands to go into those areas and try to do this your self.

and I agree with James you need to be well north of those numbers and probably over 100k to flip to homeowner.. Homeowners don't buy 30k houses that's the hood who wants to buy in the HOOD to live there... not many it strictly a D class rental game for those with the intestinal fortitude to make those properties work or those that sell them to unsuspecting out of state or country investors who end up losing all their money.

 Hi Jay and thanks for the blunt and straight note.  I'm discovering this for myself and am therefore back to concentrating on rental properties in NC.  I'd still like to know what areas would be recommended for safe (as far as money and safety) flips.

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Payman A.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Payman A.:

Hi all,

I'm expecting to buy my first flip project in the next few months and am willing to travel and live in the properties at least until I clear some profits and learn a few lessons.  Also thinking about taking a general contractor's course.  Is the $10-15K budget range for combined purchase and rehab too low/risky? (Like you would find in Detroit or Cleveland). I'd probably go cash so what are some recommended markets and required budgets for best return and quick flip?  Appreciate thoughts and suggestions.

These numbers are not realistic in Cleveland.

 I appreciate the reply James.  This might be crucial info since I don't think Detroit numbers are going to be much different.  Thoughts on what I should be expecting for cash budget, return, and time frame?

I do not think it makes any sense to try and flip anything that is selling for less then $80-100k after it is all fixed up. However all of these questions can have different answers based on an unlimited amount of variables.

I see what you mean. I was going by the rehabbed (and some even occupied) SFR & duplex investment properties in and around Detroit selling for $20-30K but unless someone is flipping several at a time the time/return wouldn't be worth it. I'm now considering the same plan with numbers closer to what you mentioned. Thanks.

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Payman A.:

Hi all,

I'm expecting to buy my first flip project in the next few months and am willing to travel and live in the properties at least until I clear some profits and learn a few lessons.  Also thinking about taking a general contractor's course.  Is the $10-15K budget range for combined purchase and rehab too low/risky? (Like you would find in Detroit or Cleveland). I'd probably go cash so what are some recommended markets and required budgets for best return and quick flip?  Appreciate thoughts and suggestions.

These numbers are not realistic in Cleveland.

 I appreciate the reply James.  This might be crucial info since I don't think Detroit numbers are going to be much different.  Thoughts on what I should be expecting for cash budget, return, and time frame?

Post: what are some recommended markets?

Payman A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Scott K.:

come to Detroit suburbs.  Its a thriving market

 Thanks Scott.  Is that where you are?  I've heard Redford is one of the places to consider but then I'm sure the numbers would have to be adjusted.  Do you have any estimates as to what kind of cash, return, & time frame I'd be looking at?

Originally posted by @Ned Carey:

I have used a lot of private money. My experience is that private lenders do not feel comfortable loaning for longer terms. I would love to find some longer term money myself. The work around is to borrow short to medium term and refinance out with traditional lenders once the property has a history of cash flowing profitably. 

 Hi Ned and thanks for the reply.  Yes, quickly finding out the same thing and though I'm not totally comfortable with a short-med term loan I think its something we'll also have to consider.  I'm sure I'll feel better once the first 1 or 2 properties qualify for conventional loans after a few years.  

Originally posted by @Robert Sepulveda:

The investor portfolios exist in the way I described above, but I know they're difficult to find. Keep posting on your progress and always ask for help if you run into trouble. Your solution should work if her income alone qualifies. 

Good luck. 

 Thanks and we are  now looking into the loan under her name alone.  That would definitely open up some doors for us!  I'll update with results.