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All Forum Posts by: Paul Wolfson

Paul Wolfson has started 24 posts and replied 76 times.

Post: Anyone have a STR in Three Rivers, CA?

Paul WolfsonPosted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 31

I did just that and see a 10% tax being collected however it doesn't specify what that tax consists of. I don't believe the transient occupancy tax is included in that. I spoke with a local STR management company and was told that they are manually calculating the TOT tax and paying it quarterly to the county. This backs up what my link above from Airbnb shows as well.

Post: Anyone have a STR in Three Rivers, CA?

Paul WolfsonPosted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Sean Bramble:

@Dawn Asher @Junee Gam ... and anyone else who operate STRs in Three Rivers, i have an underwriting/ financial projection question:

 I spoke to someone the other day who mentioned that Airbnb only recently (within the last year) started charging guests the 10% occupancy tax at checkout. Before this, it was up to hosts to pay up at the end of the tax year, which made their gross revenues look artificially high (because they were pre-occupancy tax). This switch creates an issue for me as I run financial projections on deals - I've been projecting based on specific comps using past 12 month data from Pricelabs/ Airdna, etc. who scrape the web for rates at the time of booking and combine them into yearly revenue totals. But if Airbnb only recently started collecting occupancy taxes from guests, it means the months before the switch shows revenue 10% above what they actually were after taxes. (My assumption here is that guests are only willing to pay so much, so if you're charging them directly they'll spend less from a daily rate perspective. 10% is a big miss in projections, so I want to be sure I'm factoring occupancy taxes in correctly.

Do any of you know exactly when Airbnb started automatically collecting occupancy taxes from guests in Three Rivers?

Thank you!

@Junee Gam


 Sean, regarding your question on the 10% occupancy tax, I do not see Three Rivers or Tulare County listed on Airbnb's website (Occupancy tax collection and remittance by Airbnb in California). See below. So I don't believe they are collecting the transient occupancy tax on your behalf. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Occupancy tax collection

@Valerie Budd where are the new developments located? I’d like to take a deeper look at the 4 bedroom house?

Post: Anyone have a STR in Three Rivers, CA?

Paul WolfsonPosted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 31
@Junee Gam  were you able to find workers such as cleaner and handyman in this market?

@William Beck thank you for your concise response, that’s great info. Do you know if there is much demand for 4-bedroom cabins there? As I see that 90% of the market is 2/2 condos. 

Post: Lake Tahoe: Vacation Rental Regulations

Paul WolfsonPosted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 31

Hello. I've been doing research and have determined that all of Lake Tahoe (which includes multiple counties/regions) have place cap limits on the number of allowed STRs. The only region that has not yet reached the cap limit is North/West shore. Can anyone in the area confirm this?

Would love to connect with a local real estate agent in the area.

Thank you.

@Michael Baum I got the daily rate from AirDNA using the ENEMY method that was mentioned by @Luke Carl 

I looked only at listings that had 300+ days available on AirDNA and made sure they had at least 20+ reviews. I took their average rate which came to about $158. Which is actually higher than the current rates I'm seeing directly on AirBnb website.

The Occupancy rate was confirmed to be about accurate. This forum has a few posts with people saying their units were rented out 160-175 days in the last year. AirDNA says 52% is the average occupancy.

@John Underwood I've only looked at condos because it seems 90% of all listings on AirBNB are these condos in Branson. I usually avoid condos but it seems to be this market's most popular listing type. Perhaps I'm wrong?

I am having a hard time figuring out how folks are able to achieve decent cash-flow in Branson, MO as my numbers are not penciling out. 

Yet I am seeing a lot of short term rentals in this market -- 4,184 as of today according to AirDNA. So perhaps I'm missing something? 

My assumptions are below. I'd appreciate any help if I'm missing something.

Assumptions

Branson consists of a majority of 2/2 condo/townhouse units. 

According to a local real estate agent, I was told condos at the Point Royale Golf Village have the below (COA, POA, Golf) fees.

Purchase Price: $200,000

Down Payment: 10%

Interest Rate: 6.5%

Principal + Interest +Tax + Insurance: $1,421

PMI: $100

COA Fee: $209/mo

POA Fee: ($1,500/yr) = $125/mo

Golf Fee: ($700/yr) = $58/mo

Utilities: $250

Cleaning Fee: $600

Internet: $60

Misc: $270

Total Expenses: $2,996/mo

Total Revenue: $2,500/mo based on 50% occupancy rate and $158 average daily rate.

Result: -$500/mo

@Mack Lengel most folks on here are investors...and do not have a background in either hospitality nor are they institutional smart-money with unlimited capital. With that said, due to limited funding, the majority of investors will have an average design / layout /furnishings, as well as average level of hospitality. As much as one may aspire to offer the best STR property on the market, the law of averages suggests that the majority will fall somewhere along the bell curve distribution.

@Scott K. I’m not too familiar with your market and when I type in Poconos, PA in Zillow nothing comes up. Is there a specific city I can look at to see what you are referring to?