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All Forum Posts by: Paul Shannon

Paul Shannon has started 15 posts and replied 328 times.

Post: Who are the best turnkey providers?

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

I don't promote turnkey.  Make sure you do your due diligence on the property, and the operator.  Who did the work?  Quality level, permits pulled, was it lipstick on a pig, etc?  

You can count on overstated pro-forma returns.  just know by how much, so you can actually make money and not buy a headache. 

Post: Hard Money Lender vs HELOC

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Risk vs. reward. How much downside risk do you have with a lower interest rate on your HELOC, vs. a hard money lender rate? COC isn't everything. Gotta be able to sleep at night too. That's a question only you can answer.

Post: Tax Deferment as an LP investor on Multi-Family Syndication

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Syndications are not typically 1031 exchange friendly.  Check out a Delaware Statutory Trust as an alternative. 

Post: Cashflow or Cash on Cash Return?

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469
Originally posted by @Jonathan Edmund:

I am looking at buying a property in my market. It's just an efficiency condo and it's currently rented for $700 a month. Tenant in place through May 2021. I ran my calculations on it and if I purchase it and put 20% down, I'm looking at a $167 a month cashflow after factoring in taxes, mortgage, HOA fee and costs that vary. But my cash on cash return will be 19%.

If I pay cash for the unit, I can cashflor $329 a month but my cash on cash return is only 8.5%. Since rates are so low right now, would it make more sense to finance it and keep my cash so I can try to get another unit sooner, or is there a good reason why going cash makes more sense in this case?

 This is personal finance 101 and only you know your risk tolerance.  Sounds like a good deal and there is no right answer.  

Factor time value of money, leverage wins out all day long.  

Do you need low stress to sleep well at night.  Low/no leverage = piece of mind.  Lower returns, but greater safety. 

Every decision is based on risk adjusted return.  Much of this formula requires your own risk tolerance as a variable. 

Post: Anyone need a good handyman? My guy is moving to Indy!

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469
Originally posted by @Brandon Turner:

Hey Guys and Gals- my main handyman employee (Joe) just put in his two-week notice because he's moving - to Indianapolis ( or Bloomington ).

I know good help is hard to find, and I also wanna help out my guy so I'm looking to connect him with some investors in Indianapolis so he can hit the ground running. Full time, part-time, or just contract basis. 

If interesting - comment below and I'll PM you his info! 

Hey Brandon,

Saw your forum post for Hawaii maintenance guy moving to Indy. Absolutely priceless to have these guys. Shooting you a PM to get contact info. Got about 30 units, mostly south of Indy by a few hours, but considering syndication, and a contact like this would be priceless. Much appreciated.

Paul

Post: Payoff line of credit?

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Heloc is good for two things, one being able to access the capital to seize a deal.  Two,  flexibility.  The flexibility to access cash, but not pay interest on it if not used, in my option is priceless.  Its portfolio management and opportunity cost, but if you can build that into your overall strategy, very important. 

Post: Any Pointers on Selling an Investment Property w/ Tenant

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Talk to a wholesaler and see if you can sell it to an investor, before putting it on the market

Post: Where to find the data for market evaluation

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

check the big commercial brokerage sites.  Marcus Millichap, CBRE, etc.  They report this info, as specially for the big metros.  Its multifamily driven and macro, but if your niche is single family, the data is useful. 

Post: Are here any investors from Topeka, KS?

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Topeka!  I love tertiary markets.  Tell me about Topeka.  Kansas City is close by and is a hot rental market from a cash flow stand-point.  Good appeal.  

Does anyone living in Topeka commute to KC?  Is Topeka growing?  Love to hear about markets outside of my knowledge, as every market is so different. 

Post: Buy another or pay one down

Paul ShannonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fishers, IN
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 469

Maybe a business line of credit on the paid off properties would be a happy medium.  Gives you the cash if you need it to pounce on an opportunity, but not the payment if no opportunity arises.  Check local banks and credit unions, if you can give them first lien position.  Invaluable.