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All Forum Posts by: Paul Farley

Paul Farley has started 15 posts and replied 69 times.

I have been torn on selling or renting for some time. I am leaning towards selling it so I can break off joint ownership with my sister.

So in this regard, taking out equity from the home is worth the debt? I have been wondering if this sort of debt is worth it to increase the homes value. The repairs really need done. The windows and siding are original to the home, I believe, so 60+ years old.

Then if I sold it, would it be best to use some of the money from it for a new deposit on a home. Then the rest for the REI?

Thanks

@Matt Motil

What do you teach at the U of Akron? That would be great to meet up sometime. Akron is only about a half an hour from me. I definitely need to broaden my network in this area, especially locally.

The only disadvantage with my mom's home is I moved back into it, so if I sold it I would need the finances to get myself a home. 

Is there anything you would add in my current plan? I will be visiting this site much more frequently to soak up any bit of knowledge I can get.

Thanks again!

Hi everyone,

My name is Paul and I am fairly new to this site. I discovered it looking for an insurance question and then proceeded to ask about becoming a Real Estate Agent. Since then the idea to go into Real Estate has really been tapping me on the shoulder. 

To get a little personal:

For the last 1-2 years I went into a somewhat depression, gained a bunch of weight and just sat on my couch after work. Well that has ended and I am back to my normal self. I have set goals for myself in the past and I have yet to land on any of them and I am tired of it. I have a girlfriend that I cannot even afford a ring for and a 2 year old daughter that I want to be able to do more for. I haven't been on a vacation in 2 years and I live pay check to pay check and some times don't even have enough after that.

For some reason Real Estate has always interested me. I started seeing a lot more interest when I started at my current job. We do marketing for Real Estate agents, brokers, mtg companies, etc. So on a daily basis I speak to them all of the time and some advise I received on here the last time was to contact them and ask them for advise. I did that, I contacted about 10 of them and some I had phone conversations with. They were very helpful and put a lot of perspective into my eyes. I have a friend who became a Real Estate agent in my area and I talk with him regularly and he is doing great.

Now, to get into some more private information, but useful information.

My mother passes away a year and a half ago and myself and my sister inherited her home. We are in the last stages of probate now, so it should be in our name soon. We have been paying the mortgage since then and we only have about $7,500 left on it. The house is worth about $70,000 - $75,000 as is, but with new siding and windows I would see that jump to about $95,000 (the house next door sold last year for $95,000 and it has a 1 car garage compared to my 2 and my house has a breaseway and much larger driveway, plus there home had an older roof and about 15 year old windows/siding, but it had a fully furnished basement). I am uncertain whether I want to sell the home after I pay it off, rent it, or stay in it for a little while. My girlfriend hates living there anymore because of living with my sister and her two dogs. I know it would be best to live there for a little while longer after it is paid off because not having any mortgage debt would be great. So I am stuck between a rock and hard place with this.

Other than that, I have a small credit card that I am working on paying off. Then I have the dreaded student loan debt.

That is all the debt I have, but I had troubles with my student loan debt, like many others and it messed up my credit really bad. I have really been working on fixing it the last year and a half and I have increased it over 100 points. I have other things that should be falling off soon too. However, my credit still is bad, lower 600 score. 

I went to school for marketing and only have 60 credit hours, so I am 2-3 years from graduating. I am contemplating going back next fall, but not sure.

In the past year I have taught myself coding, so I try everyone in a while to get side work doing that, but without a name or portfolio it is difficult, but I have started creating a Real Estate website that I think would do VERY VERY well with Real Estate and would have the potential to compete with Zillow/Realtor.com , but I do not have the skills to create everything needed, so that thought is on hold, probably for a decent amount of time.

Now that I have given my background. I really want to start doing something with my life and I believe this is it. My first step is taking care of myself. I started losing the weight I have gained and have lost 22 lbs, I still want to lose quite a bit more. I am getting a gym membership tonight to help with this cause. Once I have got to my target weight, or close to it, I will be signing up to go to a local college to obtain my Real Estate license. Then I will join a brokerage and try to succeed in that.

What I really want to do is be an investor though and with my credit and lack of income coming in, there is no way I can do it.

So I guess my questions would be is:

1. Does my plan sound like I am going in the right direction. Is there anything I should change and/or add in?

2. Is it possible to invest in Real Estate with my situation? 

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to give my background to help and hopefully get some great insight because I have no other means of getting it.

Thanks!

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10
Thanks @sandra Rubio

Great info!!


Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I started with a big company where the the education and training was top notch. Split was not that good 60/40, but in order to have the foundations to build a good business, it was fine for me.

Then, I move to a pops and mom, you know them there are tons of them out there, where the split is great, ( you get almost 100% commission), but marketing and support for you is none, I was doing my CE on my board and trying to get as much as I could from different sources, at that time, my income plateau, and then I realized in order for me to grow, I had to move. Next,  I joined my actual Broker (Big National Brand), and in my opinion it was the smarter business decision I have ever made. Of course, from paying almost nothing to pay the huge split and fees, was overwhelming at the beginning, now I can say for me it absolutely worth it, you have the training, education and support.

It sounds like you make the bulk of your income from selling (brokering) real estate.  The bulk of the people on this forum are investors and are looking to get their license in order to help their investing career.  For that, the training, marketing, brand, support, etc., is much less important than for those who are interested in being professional real estate agents.

This is what I want to do eventually. Though, I think I might like Real Estate, but I am much more business minded. Plus Real Estate would give me the extra monies to purse investing in Real Estate and I could buy my own properties.

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10

Thanks @J Scott

You would think smaller brokerages would offer more support, as they would have less agents to worry about. Then those lesser amount of agents mean more,

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10

Thanks for the great help @David Hunter and @J Scott Hamilton ! 

When you say this:

Then, you'll have your split with the broker. That could be anywhere from 50% to 90% or more. That's something you'll need to work out with your brokerage.

Is that 50-90% I would get or they would get? I couldn't see the brokerage getting more than half? 

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10

Is the normal commission before brokerage splits 3%, factoring in the buyer/seller splits?

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @J Scott Hamilton:

A couple of things I am learning in following the steps to become a new real estate agent:

1) How much training does the brokerage provide over and above the minimum necessary licensing requirements. How much of this is the mechanics of real estate transfer, and how much is generic selling skills?

2) Does the brokerage generate leads that are passed onto the agents?

3) What is the commission split? One national brokerage here in my area pays 70% more on the split for the top tier producer than a competing regional brokerage.

4) How are the in-house selling tools, especially the customer relationship and document management pieces? You can gain and lose a lot of efficiency here.

5) What is the brokerage's culture? Do they show a lot of hand holding, or they do they expect you to get out in the field and round up business?

Thank you for this! These are some great questions to ask.

What is the normal starting split rate? I am not sure on what any of these figures should be.

I called the buddy of mine who has been in Real Estate now for almost two years. The first years he only did leases though. He said that he has sold 12 homes now in that year. I know this has to be much greater than the normal average start. 

He was with a smaller brokerage, but in the last week he has had several interviews with larger firms because he wants the additional marketing and training. He said he did not get any with the past brokerage.

Do you all agree that it would be better for me to start at a larger firm? 

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10

So, I started on this right away. I contacted a good 10 Realtors/brokers that I have a pretty good business relationship, they were glad to help and offer their advise. I have a call setup today with one of them to hear some advise she has. 

A lot of the advise I am getting is to not be afraid to market myself and spend they money to do so. The most often mentioned comment is that the first year or two is tough, but if I am aware of that and do my due diligence that I will do well.

Some have even offered to set me up with brokers of their establishment in my area. Though with good searches, I can see they aren't in my area.

I still have a question about brokerages. Everyone is saying that the first year or two is hard. I'm sure most of that is because connections and awareness has not been created yet that I would be a Realtor. Wouldn't a larger brokerage have more power to get me clients in that new starting period?

What is the good and bad about larger brokerages? 

-Is there more fees that come out of commissions?

-Better marketing materials?

-More listings?

etc

I could really use some guidance in this regard. A friend of mine that I mentioned in this post earlier posted last night on Facebook that he had a new listing and how excited he was. It seems like he is really fighting to get an listings, so if there is a way to reduce this problem a bit, I am sure I would do quite well.

Thanks!

Post: Thinking about becoming a Realtor/getting into Real Estate

Paul FarleyPosted
  • Canton, OH
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Marta Brown:

Paul,

Relationships are everything in this business. You want to establish yourself as easy to business with and an asset a person feels comfortable with and available for them. People work with people they like. This is true for a new agent working with a broker or an agent working with customers and clients.

Yes the classes and tests are required by individual states but real estate is a bunch of varied area you can focus in. Find your niche. I'm sure you will be successful.

Best wishes.

Marta Brown
Broker/Owner
Blue Peach Realty
Snellville, GA

 Definitely! This is the one aspect I am pretty familiar with. The company I work for is a retention/loyalty marketing company, so I work with Realtors/Brokers all day helping them connect with their customers and building referrals from it.

Thanks for the input!