Done being a wantrepreneur and time to be an entrepreneur

Done being a wantrepreneur and time to be an entrepreneur

Canton, OH · Member since 2015 · 69 posts · 10 votes

Hi everyone,

My name is Paul and I am fairly new to this site. I discovered it looking for an insurance question and then proceeded to ask about becoming a Real Estate Agent. Since then the idea to go into Real Estate has really been tapping me on the shoulder. 

To get a little personal:

For the last 1-2 years I went into a somewhat depression, gained a bunch of weight and just sat on my couch after work. Well that has ended and I am back to my normal self. I have set goals for myself in the past and I have yet to land on any of them and I am tired of it. I have a girlfriend that I cannot even afford a ring for and a 2 year old daughter that I want to be able to do more for. I haven't been on a vacation in 2 years and I live pay check to pay check and some times don't even have enough after that.

For some reason Real Estate has always interested me. I started seeing a lot more interest when I started at my current job. We do marketing for Real Estate agents, brokers, mtg companies, etc. So on a daily basis I speak to them all of the time and some advise I received on here the last time was to contact them and ask them for advise. I did that, I contacted about 10 of them and some I had phone conversations with. They were very helpful and put a lot of perspective into my eyes. I have a friend who became a Real Estate agent in my area and I talk with him regularly and he is doing great.

Now, to get into some more private information, but useful information.

My mother passes away a year and a half ago and myself and my sister inherited her home. We are in the last stages of probate now, so it should be in our name soon. We have been paying the mortgage since then and we only have about $7,500 left on it. The house is worth about $70,000 - $75,000 as is, but with new siding and windows I would see that jump to about $95,000 (the house next door sold last year for $95,000 and it has a 1 car garage compared to my 2 and my house has a breaseway and much larger driveway, plus there home had an older roof and about 15 year old windows/siding, but it had a fully furnished basement). I am uncertain whether I want to sell the home after I pay it off, rent it, or stay in it for a little while. My girlfriend hates living there anymore because of living with my sister and her two dogs. I know it would be best to live there for a little while longer after it is paid off because not having any mortgage debt would be great. So I am stuck between a rock and hard place with this.

Other than that, I have a small credit card that I am working on paying off. Then I have the dreaded student loan debt.

That is all the debt I have, but I had troubles with my student loan debt, like many others and it messed up my credit really bad. I have really been working on fixing it the last year and a half and I have increased it over 100 points. I have other things that should be falling off soon too. However, my credit still is bad, lower 600 score. 

I went to school for marketing and only have 60 credit hours, so I am 2-3 years from graduating. I am contemplating going back next fall, but not sure.

In the past year I have taught myself coding, so I try everyone in a while to get side work doing that, but without a name or portfolio it is difficult, but I have started creating a Real Estate website that I think would do VERY VERY well with Real Estate and would have the potential to compete with Zillow/Realtor.com , but I do not have the skills to create everything needed, so that thought is on hold, probably for a decent amount of time.

Now that I have given my background. I really want to start doing something with my life and I believe this is it. My first step is taking care of myself. I started losing the weight I have gained and have lost 22 lbs, I still want to lose quite a bit more. I am getting a gym membership tonight to help with this cause. Once I have got to my target weight, or close to it, I will be signing up to go to a local college to obtain my Real Estate license. Then I will join a brokerage and try to succeed in that.

What I really want to do is be an investor though and with my credit and lack of income coming in, there is no way I can do it.

So I guess my questions would be is:

1. Does my plan sound like I am going in the right direction. Is there anything I should change and/or add in?

2. Is it possible to invest in Real Estate with my situation? 

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to give my background to help and hopefully get some great insight because I have no other means of getting it.

Thanks!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 880 votes
    10y

    First off, @Paul Farley, welcome to BP! I'm from the NE Ohio area too and it's nice to see more "locals". I work in the Akron area and teach at U Akron. 

    You're on the right track. The best thing about having no money is that you can't just throw it around and make bad mistakes. Everything ends up being more calculated when you have nothing. You can do it though. It's not going to be super easy, but it is doable. You are in a great position with your mom's house and that will provide you with probably a lot more opportunity than you might think. 

    If you want to grab coffee or lunch sometime let me know. 

  • Canton, OH · Member since 2015 · 69 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    Thanks

    @Matt Motil

    What do you teach at the U of Akron? That would be great to meet up sometime. Akron is only about a half an hour from me. I definitely need to broaden my network in this area, especially locally.

    The only disadvantage with my mom's home is I moved back into it, so if I sold it I would need the finances to get myself a home. 

    Is there anything you would add in my current plan? I will be visiting this site much more frequently to soak up any bit of knowledge I can get.

    Thanks again!

  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 880 votes
    10y

    I teach in the construction engineering program. I also teach in the same program at Tri-C. It's fun and I enjoy sharing what I know with the next generation of construction professionals. 

    The house is almost paid off, which is great. You would have a few options. A couple things that come to mind right away: 

    1. Open a home equity line of credit (HELOC) against the house and use the money to do the repairs/upgrades you mentioned. After that is done, you can move out and rent the place to a tenant if the numbers make sense. The remaining line of credit could be used to do more REI deals.

    2. You could simply sell the place and cash in on the equity and value add by doing the upgrades/repairs. The money you get from cashing out could be used to do more REI deals.

    3. You continue to live in the place and use the HELOC to fund/finance your REI deals.

    There are more options, but these are just a quick few that I would see that could be good places to get started. 

  • Canton, OH · Member since 2015 · 69 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    I have been torn on selling or renting for some time. I am leaning towards selling it so I can break off joint ownership with my sister.

    So in this regard, taking out equity from the home is worth the debt? I have been wondering if this sort of debt is worth it to increase the homes value. The repairs really need done. The windows and siding are original to the home, I believe, so 60+ years old.

    Then if I sold it, would it be best to use some of the money from it for a new deposit on a home. Then the rest for the REI?

  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    Hey @Paul Farley welcome to the site! Here's a few places I'd recommend checking out: 


    http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2013/02/09/how-to-start-investing-real-estate-young/

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2013/11/02/hack-housing-get-paid-live-free/ http://www.biggerpockets.com/ubg Finally, check out the BiggerPockets Podcast if you haven't yet - at http://www.biggerpockets.com/podcast. Find some good episodes and jump in!

    Hope that helps,

    Brandon

  • Investor · Juneau, AK · Member since 2015 · 980 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    Thanks for sharing your story, Paul... And I am not sure if any landlords talk about it, but on a 4 plex brush and roller paint job, I can easily shed 10 lbs or more (not just water weight from sweat). And  really intense unit turnaround burns of 5 lb+.. And a soft remodel (paint, new vinyl laminate floor, etc) is usually in the 5-10 range for me...

    So you may have found a lucrative investment and an exercise program (especially if you become a small scale landlord)

  • Canton, OH · Member since 2015 · 69 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    Thanks @Brandon Turner and @Michael Boyer! 

    Michael, I am not too concerned on the weight part. It will shed off.

    Brandon, great links! I definitely need a better source of income to allow me to start all of this and I am hoping when I dive into being a Realtor that will help. I found a local meeting through this site that is hosted once a month and I plan on attending.

    I will be watching your podcast tonight and am excited for it.

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