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All Forum Posts by: Paul Beets

Paul Beets has started 9 posts and replied 82 times.

Post: Is wholesaling worth it?

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

It really depends on what your personal and financial goals are.     

Can you make money in wholesaling?   Sure.    Many people do.    Is it a hella lot of work?    It can be.

Wholesaling and Flipping are "transactional" one time money makers.    They do not build long term wealth and are not taxes as favorably as buy&hold rental real estate.

Paul

Post: What if there are 2nd mortgages and other liens on Foreclosure?

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

Talk with the title company to know exactly what liens are on the property.    Get a complete list.    THEN contact a skilled and capable real estate attorney to consider a quiet title action.    This would wipe away the liens through a suit.

I really don't know if this can be done or not.    You obviously will not owe the liens.   

Post: Need help with the rental property calculator

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

I would use the numbers of what is currently getting.    That will give you some kind of an idea what kind of return you are seeing per year right now.      Hopefully you are pulling profit and loss reports from your books and determing your return on investment each year anyways.

Also - be very careful of the tax implications of selling rental property.     You'll want to look into a 1031 exchange.

Post: Help with Buying my second home!

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

How long have you been in your current house hack? You have the otherside renting and cashflowing? You might be able to buy another duplex, triplex, or quad on a new FHA loan and move the house hack to another property with only 3.5% down. THEN ... move and rent your old unit out.

Have you tried Fund&Grow?     It is a salty sign-up process ... but if you have good credit you could pull down $40K - $60K of business credit which can be used to close on another property.

You could also consider hard money lenders.   

Paul

Post: Can you BRRRR with an FHA Loan?

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

FHA does have a cash-out option. But the requirements are strict and so are the terms (LTV). Typically ... it is not an ideal mechanism for the BRRRR strategy.

FHA loans are great for purchasing a pretty much turnkey property because if you qualify ... it is only 3.5% down.

Paul

Post: (FUNDING QUESTION) First Time Investor Looking At Properties

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

If they are on the MLS ... it is unlikely. Can you help answer a few questions about these properties (without my jumping into Zillow and running the numbers myself?)

#1 - What will the rent for conservatively?    I usually get this information off of rent-o-meter.
#2 - What is the after repair value.   This is tricky to come up with.   I usually ball park it by taking past 6-12 month sales comps of similar properties sold within a mile of the subject property.    Figure out how much per square foot each one sold and then multiple that number by the sq footage of the subject property.
#3 - CAP Rate = (Monthly Rent * 12 *.6) / purchase price. What is the CAP rate for each one of these properties?
#4 - How much rehab do they need?    This is a really tough one to estimate.    Might be worth having a contractor walk the property with you if these are your first deal(s).
#5 - Finally ... you need to be "ALL-IN" at 70% of ARV. So Purchase Price + Conservative Rehab Estimate = < 70% of ARV.
#6 - Use the biggerpockets calculator to make sure it will cash flow with Debt service.

Cheers!

Paul 

Post: Non-Arm's Length Transaction and Clouded Title in Default

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

Have you considered doing a subject-to deal with them?    They would basically sign over the deed and you would take over the payments on the mortgage.    There are a number of subject-to facebook groups you should look into.

Are they going to stay in the home after you purchase it?

Paul

Post: Third BRRRR! 13.12% CoC ROI Real Estate School Class 280

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

@Simon Stahl. Yes the $33K is all that was left in the deal.

Rehab was near $80K. The expected ARV was $120K and it appraised at $105K. So a $15K difference.

All in all yes you are correct. I’m cash flowing and 13% isn’t too bad.

Post: Third BRRRR! 13.12% CoC ROI Real Estate School Class 280

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Indianapolis.

Purchase price: $34,000
Cash invested: $33,923

Highly distressed duplex over on Indianapolis' east side. First mistake I made wholesaler pitched this as a three bed / one bath on each side. It ended up being a two bed / one bath on each side with a very small storage area (no where near big enough to be classified as a bedroom). That was the first mistake I made. And as of today this i the only probably I own

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

When I began looking for properties to aquire at the beginning of this year - I was finding that many of the properties no longer met my investing criteria (12% CAP rate + "all-in" at <75% of ARV). But I began looking at duplexes and the numbers seemed to work very well.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Wholesale deal - I had already bought several properties from they so they made me a deal.

How did you finance this deal?

I bought the property for cash but then I refinanced it with a hard money lender. This is probably the second mistake I made on this deal. That process of purchasing with cash and then refi with hard money is expensive. The hard money ended up charging higher number of points because the loan was less than $100K. More expense on the pile.

How did you add value to the deal?

This was a very heavy rehab. We added a new roof, new windows, new doors, gut of the kitchens, gut of the bathrooms. We converted the small "storage" space into an added small second bathroom with stand-up showers on each side. Repairs and paint on the exterior as well. We used glue down vinyl plank flooring that did not photograph well.

What was the outcome?

Project went way over budget. Rehab went much longer than expected. Took MUCH too long to get rented. Because of the quality of the rehab - the appraisal ended up coming back WAY lower than even what the hard money appraised it for. I attribute this directly to the quality of the rehab done. Specifically the "textured" walls and then glue down vinyl plank which has come up in a number of areas already after less than a year.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

#1) Make damn sure it is an actual honest to god three bed room. No small storage rooms as the third bedroom.
#2) Do not buy for cash and turn around refi with hard money. That is expensive and a LONG process before you get started on the rehab.
#3) No more glue down vinyl plank. We use click together in all of our properties now.
#4) If you are going to rehab it - do it good and do it right. Trying to cheap it out will only impact the appraisal down the road.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I have no one to recommend from this deal..... I wish I could say I am proud of the work that was done here. I'm just glad to cash flows and doesn't cost me money in the end.

Post: The Monday Money Meetup

Paul BeetsPosted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 84

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